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Norse-Gaels

A user is adding what I regard as nonsense to the article Norse-Gaels. I am on 3RR for now, so can't revert him for now. Can you review and perhaps tell me if I am wrong to think as I do. Regards. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 22:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, don't be his tool and get in the middle. Don't take my side either. Take Wikipedia's side and that of professional historians, university professors. I'm just repeating what I have read and seen in books, or online. If he wants "his article" to obey his perceptions, then the article will stay limited forever. There is contemporary evidence of the Norse-Gaels' contributions to society and it is not "locked in the past", so to speak. I bet this editor would not object to the perpetuation of this ethnic stereotype in Scotch, Manx, Irish or Faroese lands. I daresay that he may be an ethnocentric bigot who can't agree with a "cohesive Celto-Germanic community" that includes England, begging the question on whether he is a Scottish nationalist. Wikipedia is a place to recite knowledge, not push POV agendas. IP Address 22:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not trying to push any points in the article, just on the talk page in order to clarify the supposed ignorance of the other user and his newfound pal who enjoy mocking me. Why is there an objection to Richmondshire? The Bretons destroyed or corrupted the original framework and made it into their own, but please read up on the history of Richmondshire and its original people pre-1066. This district was exactly the same as shown on maps for the Norse-Gaels settling there! How is that so hard to understand? The Quakerism via Albion's Seed was merely to point out that not all traces of it died out with the Bretons or Normans. Surely, Richmond is a cultural backwater today. When there were Vikings who took over the Anglian district of Gilling...did Winchester give a rat's arse? The answer is that there is a convoluted set of circumstances which have blurred the region. I told somebody from Newbury in Berkshire that my family's from Wensleydale and she called it a CHEESE! WTF? Don't you see the ignorance I'm faced with? Please, go to school. IP Address 23:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

The Norwegian colonisation of Northern England was inseparable from the Gaelic syncretism. There is a reason why a king of Norway is called Magnus Barelegs and if you did more research, you would see the maps and atlases showing the settlement patterns. You would see how York and Dublin had a long process of unity which became fruition under Olaf III Guthfrithson and it had an economic as well as social community. Are you stubbornly opposed to works of Oxford University Press, or professional historians of the Viking Age? Don't let present perceptions get in your way of learning how things were. Most people don't know that Norway went on Crusade either, but it happened. Please, educate yourself before judging. I don't like prejudice. IP Address 23:15, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Angus, would you care to see my newest edition of the Norse-Gaels article? It is more relevant and to the point, than what I composed before. IP Address 19:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your most recent edit. IP Address 19:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

My referencing the Kessler site was not to draw on the specific data, but to show that a multitude of sources show the same general idea (so, it is not strange) in regards to a Norse-Gael community all around the Irish Sea and its hinterland beyond the shores--as well as the (presently) Scottish Islands. I agree with you, that Kessler takes stances which are based more in approximates than definitives. IP Address 20:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, it is not strange to consider this. Such interactions continue to be source of common culture in Northern England today. That is why the Archdiocese of Liverpool exists, for example. IP Address 20:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

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Vote stacking

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The Viking Secret

There are certainly plenty of articles en Français, certainly, and yes, it is listed on Amazon.FR (but not ~.com or ~.co.uk): - try repeating the Google search in English only. With that additional restriction (which was mentioned in my original post, note) the only mentions are, quelle surprise, mirrors of the now deleted Wikipedia section article on Vikings, and there are only a very few of them. With respect, I disagree with the view expressed elsewhere on the AfD that a book written in French that has not been translated into English, nor rated any mention anywhere on the internet on English (taking Google as a pretty good proxy for "the internet") can somehow be notable on English Wikipedia. Feel free to add an article to the French Wikipedia, if that is your wont, but as the consensus (which I don't understand you to dispute), even from the author of the article, is that this is "pseudohistory" - i.e., bunk - it seems difficult to divine a possible conceptual reason for notability in English for this article. ElectricRay 00:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Armenian Genocide

Hi Angus, Yeah, I probably should have stayed out of it. I removed the totally disputed tag and then went back in and added the POV tag as a compromise which is rediculous. Isn't this where King Solomon splits the baby in half. I married an Armenian so I hear about these things. I am considered an "odar"(sp)(outsider) so resolution of this topic has as much chance as Jews and Arabs kissing and making up, imho. I am sure the tags will get switched back and forth a bunch of times today anyways, just watch. Its funny how Wiki's "prime directive" is NPOV but you can't swing a dead cat without finding serious POV edit wars going on in here. Human Beings, go figure :). Cheers!--Tom 14:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It should not be a question of kissing and making up or of presenting (discredited and untrue) second opinions. It should be a matter of presenting the truth. This is an Encyclopedia - is it not?

Main Entry: en·cy·clo·pe·dia Variant(s): also en·cy·clo·pae·dia /in-"sI-kl&-'pE-dE-&/ Function: noun Etymology: Medieval Latin encyclopaedia course of general education, from Greek enkyklios + paideia education, child rearing, from paid-, pais child -- more at FEW

a work that contains information on all branches of knowledge or treats comprehensively a particular branch of knowledge usually in articles arranged alphabetically often by subject.

I assume that "knowledge" is in reference to truth & fact...not to whatever some editor can make up on the spot...

And in alowing this you are supporting denial of genocide. Does this make you feel all warm and tingly inside? Have a nice day. --THOTH 17:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Personal Attacks

Oh so the following remarks by your dear protégé Eupator are not personal attacks: "I'm not sure if English is your first language or whether you have cognitive issues but the meer suggestion that a new user such as yourself that jumps into controversial topics might perhaps be a sockpuppet is not only not a personal attack but a daily occurance on wikipedia. Fear not, this is not turkey or mongolia. You are innocent until proven otherwise.--Eupator 15:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)" and another personal attack posted today on the talk page of Armenian Legion: "That bullcrap was merely copy pasted from already discredited propaganda websites. The scoundrel didn't even bother to paraphrase that baloney.--Eupator 17:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)" and another "So Lucifer, you mean to tell me that in this freedom of speech paradise anyone can go and burn the turkish flag in ankara like we can do here in the US with our flag? Can the average Joe deface an image of your God ataturk like we can do in Europe or the States with our leaders images and whatnot? Go feed your crap to someone else troll and enough of this irrelevant spamming. This is not a discussion forum.--Eupator 18:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)" At least be honest and dont just selectively chose who to accuse of personal attacks! Lutherian 20:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

3RR doesn't apply

I can revert vandalism ten billion times a day, especially from anons.--Eupator 20:30, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

-Inanna-

Hi, I saw your message on THOTH's talk page. I knew Inanna, and trust me on this, it isn't her. Probably some of the anon's are our friend Lutherian, but not Inanna. I'll let you know when she comes back. —Khoikhoi 05:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree they definity are not Inanna, I am pretty much sure that Deepblue is Torque and that they are actually three friends working in cohort. Fad (ix) 02:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

personal attack to fadix

I was actually willing to contact you about this. Please take a look at our history. I have tried so hard to close personal talk with this guy so many so many times. I declared i wont do any personal talk. I have sent him posts in good will to close the talk. he claimed that I am a turk undercover. I said I am not Then he just got stuck to a Phd issiue. He claimed that I am a liar. what is that? What it has to do with the topic. Lastly he is in the internet searching my Thesis to find my name. for what? Searching a persons name in a discussion page? This is terorising and harassment!!! he has a history on blaming people of being a stock puppet, Turk undercover, attacker. At least 3 or 4 people heard the same stories from this guy. he is doing that intentional to scare people of this page. and this is not the only page. All pages related to Armenia.

Enough is Enough

Kick one of us out of this page!!!! Neurobio 13:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

by the way just look two paragraphs up to see what I mean. here in your page fadix makes the same claims abut another person Neurobio 13:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

so this is hopeless. As you can see i am very new here. I started editing without really reading the guidelines. which is actually a mistake of course. initially I just looked at the "edit" page and copied the signature from other users. then I figured that on the top of each page it is written how to sign. You warned me and then i learned how to sign. the tracks are there that from that day on. I leave a valid sinature. neurobio 14:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC) jut like that!

Do you really think that I care about your name or who you are? I told you, the point here is you having lied rather than you being a Turk, or what have you? I will never go as down as to make threats about one user and that you percieved that this was the cases, and this new member posting someones name in the talk page as a counterattack is at the very least suspicious. For a newbie, this 3 or 4 people that heard about the same story, you seem to know so perfectly all those baseless claims against my person circulating. You should be and are of course aware that sock users involved in the Armenian genocide page are abound and that some administrators have already been warned and are aware of the situation, so don't expect any decision against me, for the simple reason that many have been witness of what happened there and that there are as well Turks who are ready to support me, believe it or not. Fad (ix) 15:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

re: Escaped quotes and blocks of anons

84.245.75.24 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) is already indef-blocked as an open proxy. I have just indef-blocked the other one since it backslashes its apostrophes. If you come across an IP like this, you can either ping a friendly admin's talk page, or post at WP:AN/I explaining things. They do not always triple backslash incidentally; often it's just one. -Splash^talk 13:25, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Ray of sunshine

Everything seems fine to me...who did you upset? You can't please everyone all the time, I guess...I wouldn't worry about it. Adam Bishop 23:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hello, Angusmclellan/bin, and thank you for vote on my recent RfA! With a final vote of 62/2/4, I have now been entrusted with the mop, bucket and keys. As I acclimate myself to my new tools, feel free to let me know how you believe I might be able to use them to help the project. Thanks again! RadioKirk talk to me 05:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article MacHeths, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contribution! Did any of these guys wear Tartan trousers (inside joke) ?? ++Lar: t/c 12:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Neil Lennon vs the Rangers Supporters Trust

I actually do not know the name of the lip reader as I am not a member of the Rangers supporters Trust, however I do know that the same lip reader was used by the Daily Record newspaper when they ran a headline about Lorenzo Amoruso racially abusing a player when Rangers played a team in Italy. I have seen the footage and am more surprised at how many people would rather keep this issue completely off this article, on the grounds that the Rangers Supporters Trust is deemed a biased source. --Karatekid7 18:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

my head on the pole?

I find that remark of yours on THOTH's discussion page highly offensive and will be reporting you! I will also be reporting your selective complaints! Cheers, Lutherian 18:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

"On a pole". For the record, a trope, and probably a dysphemism derived from the metonymy "get the chop", but the reference desk would be the place to ask. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Angusmclellan, thanks for your corrections, I will add more and source the rest when I have time. About Lutherian don't worry, he will possibly be blocked indefinitly by the Arbcom, the first to go. Also, I am pretty much sure that he is the one that created MobyPenis and PenisMoby. Well, will see, as I am pretty much sure that the Arbcom will confirm this by a checkusers. Fad (ix) 19:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Middle Ages did not call younger members of royal families as princes and princesses

please check the ongoing discussion about "princess" title on Talk:Margaret of Connaught - it will have implications that many medieval women will soon get the courtesy prefix "princess" before their names in article names. ObRoy 21:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

AfD on Urbanates

Hello, you recently voted to delete the article on urbanates, citing that Wikipedia is not a neologism dictionary. I don't mean to try and unduly influence you here, but you should know that while the concept is obscure, the term has been in use for at least 50 years. It's certainly not a neologism, and if that's the basis for your vote, you may want to re-evaluate it. Or not. Just an FYI. -- Captain Disdain 23:30, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

"British traditional history" category

Angus - I'd be interested why you removed Cassivellaunus from this category, as he definitely appears in sources like the Historia Regum Britanniae and the Welsh Triads. --Nicknack009 17:23, 2 June 2006 (UTC)