User talk:Atsatsa

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Nomination of Chef Obie Ferguson for deletion

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Proposed deletion of Zoe Jakes

The article Zoe Jakes has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No working or reliable citations. Of the citations provided, one was to a wordpress blog, the others were dead url's. The subject is part of a notable music group, but does not appear to be notable as a independent artist.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Zoe jakes

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A tag has been placed on Zoe jakes, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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You said "This page should not be speedily deleted because Zoe Jakes is mentioned by name in at least 4 other published Wikepedia pages and is one of the most recognizable names in belly dancing in the entire world"--so even in your appeal, trying to prevent this from being deleted for being promotional, you were being promotional. Drmies (talk) 22:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am merely stating a fact. The other pages that mention her do so in a similar style of wording. If all I need to do is change the style or tone, then I can attempt to do that. It doesn't need to be removed entirely. Atsatsa (talk) 22:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You've been here for at least nine years--plenty of time to learn what Wikipedia is and how it works. Yes, it did need to be removed entirely since it was irredeemable promotional and lacked proper sourcing. You're this close to being blocked for promotional editing. Drmies (talk) 23:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Zoe Jakes

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A tag has been placed on Zoe Jakes, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 2024

Your account has been blocked indefinitely for advertising or promotion and violating the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. This is because you have been making promotional edits to topics in which you have a financial stake, yet you have failed to adhere to the mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a form of conflict of interest (COI) editing which involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is strictly prohibited. Using this site for advertising or promotion is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia.

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Drmies (talk) 00:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to request clarification of your actions as suggested in the guide to appealing blocks. I saw and read that you selected advertising or promotion. However, I am unclear how you came to this decision when I was actively attempting to address these concerns and have no affiliation with the person in question whatsoever nor any of the acts and persons associated with them.

I even rewrote the article to be more “matter of fact” and direct statements versus what I had originally attempted. I was only blocked after asking for guidance and stating that I would respect the decision to remove the new page either way.

Thank you for your time. Atsatsa (talk) 00:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You dropped some of the most obvious buzzwords and yet you still wrote up something promoting the subject ("known for her impact") sourced to this page. That's promotional writing. Oh, I get 10% off on belly dance lessons? Drmies (talk) 12:46, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Known for (x) is used in Wikipedia articles. Also "Best Known for..." and "Known for their..." That is a section on many pages - "Known for..." Can you elaborate on how these are "buzzwords"? Genuine question.

The other pages linked to her that mentioned her had other sources, though I confess, I did not click them all and go down every rabbit hole. Her personal page should have been in an external link section I suppose? Most of the information on her is in the other linked Wikipedia pages. So, I concede that better resources would be better. I'm trying to improve as a whole here.

I don't belly dance. I gain nothing personally from making this page.

If you can see from my history, I have not attempted to make a page in a while. And I certainly wasn't crawling out of the woodwork to randomly be a nuisance (or be a falsely accused promoter) for some belly dancer I don't know. 192.230.188.24 (talk) 06:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]