User talk:Béka

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Hello, Béka, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  -- JLaTondre 01:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


You have tagged quite a few redirects for deletion (Amri (ethnicity), Bari (ethnic group), Bari (of the White Nile), Hammer (tribe), Homa (ethnic group), Indri (ethnicity), Kanga (ethnicity), Kara (ethnicity), Katla (ethnic group), Kuku (ethnic group), Logo (ethnicity), Lokoja (ethnic group), Mundu (ethnicity), Narim (ethnicity), Padang (ethnicity), Selim (ethnicity), Tama (ethnicity), Tenet (people), and Tira (ethnicity)). However, you have not listed them at WP:RFD. Nominating a redirect for deletion is a two step process and you have only completed one of them. Please complete the second step (see WP:RFP for instructions). If they are not listed in a reasonable amount of time, I will assume you no longer wish them deleted and remove the tags. Let me know if you have questions. Thanks! -- JLaTondre 01:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Please familiarize yourself with the utility of redirects before making any more nominations. If an article was created at the "wrong title", and you move it to the "correct title", there is no reason to delete the redirect unless the "wrong title" was is offensive or otherwise harmful. There are also several benefits of keeping such redirects. Perhaps the most significant reason is to prevent a duplicate article from being re-created at the same "wrong title". Please read the discussion. —freak(talk) 15:55, Aug. 13, 2006 (UTC)


Hello, please note that the use of {{NCT}} is deprecated. Use {{subst:ncd}} instead. Conscious 08:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


Hi Béka. Thanks for reporting User:Sk8paperboy to WP:AIV. Unfortunately we can't take action against the user unless they've vandalised past their final warning, and the user has not been warned once so far. Please revert the vandalism edits and warn the user using the appropriate templates from WP:WARN. Only after the "final warning" should they be reported to WP:AIV. Thanks, -- Waggers 12:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Workers Voice article proposed for deletion[edit]

Hi. This article has an odd edit history -- it started out as a stub about a Turkish Communist newspaper and was later morphed into a semi-advert for a Newfoundland quarterly magazine with the same name. You made an edit to this article at one point in the past. I have proposed it for deletion since it does not demonstrate notability using any references. If you can find a reliable source to establish notability, feel free to do so and strip off the {{prod}} tag. --A. B. (talk) 18:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Workers Voice (Canada)[edit]

The article's proposed deletion tag was removed and the article was renamed but it still has notability issues, so I have nominated it to be deleted via the "AfD" process. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Workers Voice (Canada). --A. B. (talk) 18:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


  1. Please make sure that your edits conform with WP:CITE.
  2. Please remember to mark your edits as minor when (and only when) they genuinely are minor edits (see Wikipedia:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one (and vice versa) is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting and minor rearranging of text should be flagged as a 'minor edit'. Thanks!
  3. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thanks, and happy editing. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 22:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

The edit was a minor edit; I categorized the uncategorized article and made some typographic changes (e.g. Abdullahi Ise ->Abdullahi Issa; Assemply -> Assembly). It looked like a major edit because I deleted empty lines and therefore moved the whole text upwards, so it looked as if every paragraph had totally changed. Béka 23:09, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

It was mainly the lead to which I was referring — you deleted "civilian and democratic era of 1960s". That was probably justified (on grounds of grammar if nothing else), but wasn't minor. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 06:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your Support, The German Somalia Portal looks very professional and its nice looking, hopefully we can match your wits, congrats on making it a success. Thank you very much, Right now, I am thinking about working on the Somali Language Wikipedia, and Professionalizing it a bit, are you interested? --Samantar Abdirisaq 09:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for answering so late... I work a lot for "my" German language Somalia portal, and I'll also try to improve the English one if I'm allowed.
I have also visited the Somali language Wikipedia and I think it is a very good idea to professionalize it, but unfortunately I speak no Somali (I know a few words, but no grammar. I'd like to learn it a bit once, but I still go to school where I have to learn English, French and Latin...). Regards, Béka 19:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Laas Gaal[edit]

Hello Beka

Recently, I have seen that you are restoring the deleted images on the Laas Gaal page. The images that I removed were stolen without permission from the Flickr websites and that is copyright violation. Restoring unsourced images will result in you being banned from wikipedia.

Abdullah Geelah 16:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me now, well before this the Wikipedian community said that pictures which are unsourced from Flickr are copyright

Anyways put the pictures in a gallery to make them look better.

Please stop putting your opinion on my talk page as you can read it the converstaion I had with Acntx was about something not involving you.

Abdullah Geelah 17:56, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

http:// lang. arabe. free. fr[edit]

Hello, I am François from France-Toulouse. I am a passionate of foreign languages. I have built the site during many months, it is non commercial, purely FREE for all. http:// lang. arabe. free. fr I have made four versions in order to be understand by the maximum of people in the world : Arabic, français, espanol, russian and English. My site is of very good quality and now that I am not in Wikipedia I have less and less visits. I find your decision not fair because my only goal is to share my passion and help to learn Arabic. There is no advertisement in my site, no religion subject, only about Arabic. If I put it in all Wikipedia languages it is because I think that an hungarian a Russian, a spanish... have the same right than Chinese, Korean or other to learn Arabic.

Many language pages where I put it, there was nothing to learn Arabic, no external link at all, and you ask us to participate and make content, that's what I have done. I would be very pleased if you can reintegrate my website because it is a good one. I am ranked 4 on Google, and I am not in Wikipedia. I know that you have the power in one click to annihilate all my hours of work day and night. I have been working hard, and my goal is not to spam but make my knowledge available for the most people. I have exactly the same idea than Wikipedia to make my work available in the most languages as possible. I am not able to make my site in Hungarian (magyar) or in Chinese or in Dutch, that is the reason why I made links towards English version. I would appreciate a lot if you can restaure my links, for me and the visitors. Thanks, because I love wikipedia and I often read articles, and I want to participate.

Now I just ask you to add me in the most common languages such as English and French. If I made an error of excess it was not with a bad goal, only by passion for Arabic.


Re: Plan to improve Somalia articles[edit]

Hi Béka, I would certainly be interested in helping. I don't have good resources close at hand, so I don't know if my involvement would progress much beyond my current efforts. You should consider engaging User:CambridgeBayWeather, if you already haven't. Thanks and good luck, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm willing to help but like Gyrofrog my access to sources is limited. I'm in a small Arctic town of 1,500 people and I'm sure that you can understand that our library is very small. As to the protection of the articles, if you haven't seen it already there is the Wikipedia:Protection policy and Wikipedia:Rough guide to semi-protection. The kind of vandalism that the Somalia articles receives is nowhere near the level as the George W. Bush article. Most of the Somalia articles receive little in the way of vandalism and can easily be reverted by a small number of people. But as I said I'm willing to help and if there is anything I can help wirh let me know. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Project or Portal[edit]

Normally a list of all articles would be at the WikiProject but right now that would mean starting one which could take a while, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide. I see that you have already found Portal:Somalia and I think a list of articles could be included there. To start with the best place to put the list until it's almost complete would be in your own sandbox. Also, some of the Somalia related material do not have catagories. I will start by looking through the editors to Somali clans and see if they have created any related material but not put it in a category. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

http:// lang. arabe. free. fr[edit]

It turns out the above external link from François is now a blacklisted spam and I couldn't save this page with fixing it. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


Hi Béka, please could you contact me (andy AT about the Somalia entries? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calmadow (talkcontribs) 20:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I usually do but in my experience people at the commons are always trigger happy to nuke image without actually checking to see if the permission to use the images is correct. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 17:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Coincidence I am here again but if you ever have a spare moment could you help develop some of the articles on cities in Sudan? Bentiu looks like the minimum an article should be -the vast majority of them are sub stubs and unreferenced ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)



The folks in Lewiston are indeed both Somalis and Bantus. However, the ones that are making headlines for arriving en masse in a very short period of time and overburdening the system are for the most part Bantus, not Somalis per this article. It has to do with a paradigm shift in US immigration policy that has elected to classify Bantus as a priority and grant them instant refugee status in the United States. Note, however, that the US government has not extended that same privilege to Somalis.

Bantus are also indeed a large and diverse ethnic group that span many countries. However, they are all still the same people. That is, whether their ancestors originated in Tanzania or Mozambique 200 years ago in the slave trade or even further back than that, Bantus are all the descendants of Bantu-speaking migrants from the Bantu expansion that first brought them to East Africa about 3000kya-4000kya. Somalis, on the other hand, are a unique and distinct ethnic group with an entirely different cultural, linguistic, ancestral, physical and ethnic background from Bantus. When we juxtapose the name "Somali" -- which delineates the progeny of Soomaal -- by descendants of West/Central African migrants from the Bantu Expansion, we are incorrectly lumping ethnically, physically, culturally, linguistically and ancestrally different people into one group. In other words, Bantus aren't Somalis. So if we are to rename the page at all, it should be to "Somali and Bantu migration to Maine". Middayexpress (talk) 21:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Agree. Béka (talk) 15:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Great; I've renamed the page and adjusted the heading on the Lewiston page. Middayexpress (talk) 21:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Somali anthem[edit]

Hello, someone recently added a few lines to Somali anthem.[1] I'm confused if its vandalism or not, as I don't understand the language but I reverted that person's edit anyway.[2] Please have a look and revert my edits if necessary. -[[::User:Unpopular Opinion|Unpopular Opinion]] ([[::User talk:Unpopular Opinion|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Unpopular Opinion|contribs]]) 15:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your work on African topics[edit]

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African topics are so underrepresented on WP, and you're one of the few making a dent in the to-do list. Thank you and please keep it up! Lemurbaby (talk) 10:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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