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V-12 engines at 180 degrees
While it's true that the 12-cylinder engine in the 365GT4BB, BB512, and Testarossa/512TR/F512M is a 180-degree V-engine derivative, it's not called a V-engine by anyone, because it's not a vee shape. It's not a boxer engine, as you correctly note. However, it is most widely -- and correctly -- dubbed a flat-12 (shortened to F-12, or even H-12). You'll find it listed on the flat-twelve engine page. It shares the alternating-pulse configuration of a V-engine, but the layout is distinct. As such, I really don't think it belongs on the list of V-12-engined cars, especially since the F-12 is listed at the bottom of the page in the Reciprocating engines and configurations cross-reference. For the same reason, we don't include W-12-engined cars on the list, even though their architecture is very similar to a vee-engine. Even on this site, the Ferrari Testarossa page talks about an F-12 or H-12 engine. Does that make sense? Sacxpert (talk) 08:34, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for the reply. No worries about protocol. Most people just leave alternating messages on each other's pages for conversations like this -- that way you can immediately see that you have a new message when you visit any Wikipedia page. I agree with you about the key to consistency. Was thinking about a change to the lied, so that it says something like "V12 engines have bank angles from 60 to 180 degrees, with a 180-degree V12 commonly referred to as a Flat-12. Do you think that clears it up enough? Sacxpert (talk) 23:59, 30 May 2011 (UTC)