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Happy editing! Largoplazo (talk) 10:49, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Alaska Native
[edit]I wanted to mention, though, that another editor and I have reversed a number of your edits. There's no need to keep repeating in an article that there are alternative names for something, like replacing "car" with "car or automobile" throughout the Car article. Also, I reverted phrases like "Native Alaskan Inupiat", as Inupiat, Yupik, etc., are native by definition. There aren't any non-native Inupiat to contrast them with! Largoplazo (talk) 10:51, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Came here to make the same point. Alaska Native is a specific term referring to a person who is belongs to one of the Indigenous peoples of Alaska. It's also a legal term and the term used by the US Census. "Native Alaskan" isn't used in the same manner. Yuchitown (talk) 16:41, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown
- Of course. Though, the term Alaska Native is fairly offensive in comparison to the term Native Alaskan. I saw someone inputted the term 'Alaska Native' being the legal definition of indigenous Alaskans, in an effort to keep the term Alaska Native throughout the article which is a fair point though I'm certain the editor was not Native Alaskan. Therefore the editor did not have empathy for the Native Alaskans who will find the term 'Alaska Native' offensive when they read the respective article. Although I won't input the nicer alternative for 'Alaska Native' at each spot the term is mentioned in an article, I'll keep editing Native Alaskan as an alternative in the beginning paragraphs of certain articles. The reason for my edits throughout the entire articles was because people don't always read from beginning to end. Dkrukoff (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- I find no suggestion anywhere (searching Google for "Alaska Native" offensive) that anybody finds "Alaska Native" offensive. In every article returned by that search, the topic is the offense taken at the use of "Eskimo" as a term for people who, in those articles, are termed Alaska Natives. That doesn't mean that there are no people among those to whom this term refers who aren't offended by it, as individuals find all kinds of reasons to find one term or another to be offensive, but it suggests that the issue is them, not the term. Nobody uses the term for the purpose of insulting anybody. It's an objective, accurate description of the people who are being referred to, with no tone of disparagement or condescension, in exactly the same way as "Native Alaskan".
- This brings to my mind the bewildering frequency with which someone comes to Talk:Jews to insist the that the article should be renamed "Jewish people" because "Jews" is offensive. This leaves those of us who are Jewish wondering what the hell they're talking about—we are Jews, we call ourselves Jews, we expect others to call us Jews. And if there is somehow a sense among the majority of Jews, a majority that excludes me, that "Jew" has magically become offensive, well, nobody in my synagogue, at least, has received the memo. (The people alleging the offense have never, that I recall, identified themselves as Jewish, claiming that the term is an offense to them, leaving me thinking that these are all non-Jews simply deciding that something about "Jews" sounds offensive.) Largoplazo (talk) 21:51, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Of course. Though, the term Alaska Native is fairly offensive in comparison to the term Native Alaskan. I saw someone inputted the term 'Alaska Native' being the legal definition of indigenous Alaskans, in an effort to keep the term Alaska Native throughout the article which is a fair point though I'm certain the editor was not Native Alaskan. Therefore the editor did not have empathy for the Native Alaskans who will find the term 'Alaska Native' offensive when they read the respective article. Although I won't input the nicer alternative for 'Alaska Native' at each spot the term is mentioned in an article, I'll keep editing Native Alaskan as an alternative in the beginning paragraphs of certain articles. The reason for my edits throughout the entire articles was because people don't always read from beginning to end. Dkrukoff (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Came here to make the same point. Alaska Native is a specific term referring to a person who is belongs to one of the Indigenous peoples of Alaska. It's also a legal term and the term used by the US Census. "Native Alaskan" isn't used in the same manner. Yuchitown (talk) 16:41, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown