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An extract from “Rauzat-us-Safaa”, JESUS MIGRATES ...

Nasibain, previously known as Nasibus, and now Urfa in southeast Turkey, is the next location along Jesus(as)’ route for which we have a recorded source. The reference comes from a well-known Persian historical work, the Rauzat-us-Safa written by Mir Muhammad Bin Khawand in 1417AD. Khawand explains that Jesus(as) was known for being a great traveller, something mentioned in other Islamic traditions, yet rarely talked about amongst Muslims. The author goes on to relate Jesus(as) travelling from the Holy Land to Nasibain: ‘Journeying from his country, he arrived at Nasibain. With him were a few of his disciples whom he sent into the city to preach. In the city, however, there were current wrong and unfounded rumours about Jesus [on whom be peace] and his mother. The governor of the city, therefore, arrested the disciples and then summoned Jesus [on whom be peace]. Jesus [on whom be peace], miraculously healed some persons and exhibited other miracles. The king of the territory of Nasibain, therefore, with all his armies and his people, became a follower of his…

Mir Muhammad Khawand Shah Ibn-i-Muhammad, Rauza-tus-Safa fi Sirat-ul-Ambia wal Muluk wal Khulafa, trans. Gardens of Purity Concerning the Biography of the Prophets, Kings and Caliphs (Bombay, 1852, originally written in 1417), Vol.1, pp.130-135Drali954 (talk) 15:31, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.

(1) There may actually be a problem with the above. The translation appears to be recent, not a 1852 Bombay book.

(2) Can you help identifying the three sources that are identified as Mullah Nadri but cannot be Mullah Nadri? In ictu oculi (talk) 10:48, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In Ictu Oculi, I alread commented on the 3rd Ref from Mullah Nadri... but (strange) it appeared with the signs of Suzane Olson. Any how, I actually tried to translate the Persian Image (given as the 3rd " Other..." .

It is TOTALLY INCORRECT translation. [Other 'Tahrik' The author of this 'Tahrik' is uknown. Image courtesy of Dr Fida Hassnain. “In early writings, it is mentioned that seventy years after the demise of Alexander the Great, Jesus Christ was born. When he reached the age of thirty years, God raised him to the status of an apostle. At the age of thirty-three years, he proceeded from Palestine towards the Holy Valley. It is mentioned in historical works that Jesus Christ reached Syria in company of his disciples and followers. It is written in authentic works that six days after his crucifixion, Jesus visited several places and met Zacharis and Mary and Disciples and then left for [an] unknown destination.”]

The near accurate translation does not help the proposition of Jesus going to Kashmir AT ALL. See the fresh rendering (at some places text not visible)

"In ma'aalim ut tanzeel it is written that when 65 years had passed after the Conquest of Babylon by Alexander , Jesus was born. And when his blessed age had reached 30 years, he was appointed as the Messenger of God. And at the age of 33 years, from "Baitul Muqaddas " he rose to the holy land . In the books of history ... past events.... that a time passed Jesus Christ (peace be on him ) along with his companions and righteous friends and disciples entered the land of Uandalas (Spain). ...In many many authentic books it is written that 6 days after his "decision" on the seventh night God the Creator of Heavens and stars sent him to the earth. He met Yahya son of Zakarya , Mary, and some of his disciples. He performed some tasks related to his will... then Jesus ( peace be upon him) went back."

ma'aalim ut tanzeel is a Quran exegesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tafsir_al-Baghawi) (also called maalim ut tanzeel). I checked that Exegesis ... it does contain a brief mention ...)Drali954 (talk) 06:01, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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