User talk:Ekalaka59324

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I created a page for Wayne Riddell which I published and which now has disappeared. I have no conflict of interest with him... he's a distinguished musician, Order of Canada. Where is the page I created... all that work! Please help. Ekalaka59324 (talk) 15:26, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Wayne Riddell (May 2)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Drmies was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This is not acceptable in its current state. It sounds promotional (or memorial), and at the very least citations ought to be done properly so a reviewer can assess them. Please see WP:CITE.

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Drmies (talk) 21:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Wayne Riddell (May 2)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Drmies was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I don't see how anything was fixed, and the language wasn't changed either. See note creator left on User talk:Jimfbleak.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Drmies (talk) 23:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is not social media, nor a memorial site where an important musician be remembered appropriately. You can't just post what you like, you must follow our rules.

If you have a conflict of interest, you must declare it. Please read the guidance below:

When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.

Much of your text is unreferenced, and the three refs you do give don't actually work. One has no link, despite the Canadian Encyclopedia being available online, and the other two go to "404 page doesn't exist" errors. Obituaries need to be treated with caution as refs, often more opinions than facts.
He is clearly notable, but we need to be able to verify what you claim.

You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.

Lots of opinions distinguished... established a fine music program which still flourishes today... training hundreds of children in the joys of choral singing... he mentored and inspired generations of young musicians

There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

I didn't check.

Not reasons for deletion, but headings should be in sentence case, and you need more wikilinks

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. If you are writing about someone you knew as a friend, colleague, client, employer or relative, you have a conflict of interest, and you must disclose the nature of that COI.

I've seen worse, and he is notable enough, but we need to write in a factual, neutral tone with references that actually verify what you have claimed instead of going nowhere. He appears to have an entry here which you could link to if you are using the encyclopaedia as a ref.

Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, shouldn't his honours be referenced to the awarding body, especially for the CM? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should mention the version I'm commenting on had already been cleaned up by the reviewer, who removed a bunch of external links from the end of the text that included spam links to sales sites, interviews with Ridell and similar Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]