User talk:Forschkomfan 008

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Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline

Hello, Forschkomfan 008. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 07:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Dear BlackcurrentTea,

Thank you for your information about the COI guidelines. I have some questions regarding this subject and will come back to you soon.

Best regards Forschkomfan 008 (talk) 13:35, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Dear BlackcurrentTea,

Thank you for your information about the COI guidelines. Actually, I intend to create an article about the Helmholtz Centre for Infection Research (HZI, article in German Wikipedia see here: HZI_German). I work at the HZI myself, so this could be seen as a conflict of interest indeed. But since I just want to post a short translation of the original article in the German Wikipedia which has been approved and edited by many users there, I think this should comply with Wikipedia standards. HZI is one of the few research centres of the Helmholtz Association (see here: Helmholtz Association ) which is not yet described in an own English Wikipedia article, so I think the relevance criteria for such an article should certainly be fulfilled. Do you think it is o.k. and in line with the standards of Wikipedia if I give it a try? Alternatively: To whom could I suggest the creation of such an article? Thank you very much in advance for your answer.

Best regards Forschkomfan 008 (talk) 09:44, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for asking. Usually a new article from a connected contributor would go through Articles for creation. This translation is a little different; you can work on it in your sandbox. When you start the page, note the specific revision number of the de.wikipedia article that you're translating from and its German title in your edit summary; see the earliest version here for an example. It's required for copyright reasons, and the information will be included in a notice on the talk page as done here, citing the language, the revision number, and article title in the original language.

When it's finished, I'll be glad to take a look at it. You can get my attention by writing a message here with {{u|BlackcurrantTea}}. (My schedule can sometimes be a bit unpredictable; please be patient.) Happy editing! BlackcurrantTea (talk) 16:26, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

BlackcurrantTea.Thanks very much for your advice. I will proceed as you have suggested and gratefully accept your offer to check the result afterwards. Best regards Forschkomfan 008 (talk) 08:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome! I've seen too many editors with conflicts of interest who've no interest in creating a good article, and who only want to promote their subject. It's a pleasure to work with someone who prefers to help build an encyclopedia.

By the way, on talk pages when replying to someone, you indent your post by adding a colon. Each colon adds another level of indenting, so if you're replying to this post, you'll begin yours with two colons (::). This makes it easier to follow the thread of a discussion and see who's replying to which post. That may not seem necessary here with only the two of us, but will help you get used to the talk page style used everywhere on en.wikipedia. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 04:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

BlackcurrantTea O.k. Good to know. I am always grateful for hints like this. As for the translated article, I hope I can present a first version soon, probably next week. Cheers, Forschkomfan 008 (talk) 14:25, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

BlackcurrantTea Hello. I have written a first draft of an article about the HZI - for details see the new article below. I'm looking forward to reading your comments and suggestions. Thank you very much in advance! Best regards, yours Forschkomfan 008 (talk) 14:07, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Proposed Article: Helmholtz Centre for Infection Research (HZI)

Hello BlackcurrantTea,

Meanwhile I have drafted a first version of the text I would like to suggest for an article about the Helmholtz Centre for Infection Research (HZI). It can be found in the “sandbox” section of my user page.

It is based on a translation of the original German Wikipedia article about HZI, version of 25 July 2020, though it is not an absolutely literal translation in all parts. I have omitted a few details which may be a bit too special for readers in the English speaking world – as, for example, mentioning the name of the urban district within the city of Braunschweig where the research centre is located. On the other hand, some parts probably unfamiliar to non-German readers have been described in a slightly more explicit manner – e.g., mentioning that Braunschweig belongs to the federal state of Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen). The header section has been re-arranged and now mentions the centre and its mission first, before the date of foundation. This would, by the way, be a sensible change for the original German version as well, at least in my opinion (I probably will suggest it there later on).

I’m not sure whether these minor changes make it a “new” article or whether it still counts as a somewhat freer translation. Anyway, I kindly ask you to have a look at my draft. I will gratefully include your advice on any part of the text and look forward to reading your comments. Thank you very much in advance, best regards

Forschkomfan 008 (talk) 12:12, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

For some reason I missed this ping; sorry about that. I'll take a look at the draft. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 02:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

I've made some changes to it, filling in references and adjusting formatting, the same kind of work I do on articles. The most important thing is that more significant coverage from independent reliable sources is needed. If the article were published as it is and someone sent it to WP:Articles for deletion (commonly called AFD, not to startle you with that acronym), I think that there's a good chance it would be merged with Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres.

All but one of the references is from HZI or an associated entity. The Deutschlandfunk article is a good start, but only a small part of it is about HZI. There are probably magazine or newspaper articles, or even a segment on TV, about HZI, its history, and its work. If you have trouble getting access to a source to see it, the WP:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request and WP:The Wikipedia Library may be able to help.

Let me know if you have any questions about this, or about any of the changes I made to the draft. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 04:12, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your valuable input, BlackcurrantTea. I will look for some additional references from external sources and then address you again. Best regards, Forschkomfan008 13:05, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello BlackcurrantTea. As you suggested, I have added some selceted external references to the article about the HZI. Can you have a short look at them and tell me whether there are further steps to take before I can submit the article? Thanks in advance and best regards, Forschkomfan 008 (talk) 12:19, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Forschkomfan. I may not be able to look through this for a few days. I want to give it my full attention, and due to non-Wikipedia life, I'm a bit distracted. If you've not heard from me by 13 November, please feel free to remind me. Thanks, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 08:32, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, BlackcurrantTea. Of course, take your time. Thank you in advance. Best, Forschkomfan 008 (talk) 12:29, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your patience. I've taken a look at it, and the new references are good. It has a much better chance as an article now. There are two statements that have citation needed tags, the budget and the state shareholders; those shouldn't be too difficult to find.

I rewrote the beginning of the history section. I'm not sure I read the source right, but it began as a non-university research institute with independent groups of scientists? That's interesting. Because the 1968 name change is described as a transformation, it sounds like a much greater alteration than the 1976 and 2006 changes. If you'd like, you could add some information about why the name changed each time (perhaps a shift in research focus, or a split from or a merge with another organisation?), and if anything else changed with the name.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 12:49, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind support, BlackcurrantTea!

I have added an internal source for the information about budget and shareholders. I will also look for additional information concerning the other points you have suggested. In the meantime, I have tried to move this version to the “article” section of Wikipedia. I hope this is the correct way to proceed. If there are still other tasks to do, please tell me.

Best regards - hoping to stay in contact with you, Forschkomfan 008 (talk) 09:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations! As far as I know, there's nothing else required. I did a little tidying up and added templates to the talk page.

Now that it's an article, because of your conflict of interest, you should propose changes on the talk page rather than editing the article directly. Most people use the {{request edit}} template; you can also ask for advice at the conflict of interest noticeboard. If the changes are truly minor/neutral - fixing a typo, for example, or updating the budget for the new year, including a reference - you can make them yourself.

It's been a pleasure working with someone who wants to do things the right way rather than simply promoting something. If you'd like to try some more translation, there are many pages with requests that information from de.wikipedia be added, on a wide variety of subjects. Please feel free to get in touch if you have questions about any of this or if I can be of assistance. Happy editing! BlackcurrantTea (talk) 18:01, 17 November 2020 (UTC)