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Boogiepop Phantom

Hi, I've just started through the long haul of expanding this article. You seem to be pretty well versed on Boogiepop lore, and you've handled other Boogiepop articles (I also saw you on the gomanga forum). This is my first attempt at really starting an article from scratch, so I would appreciate the help of a more seasoned veteran such as yourself. Here's a list of some of the stuff I've done so far:

• Padded out the links section
• Padded out the allusions section
• Started the plot "summary" with the section on Manaka Kisaragi.

However I must stress that I am poor(relatively) at writing, so this in itself could probably be heavily improved upon. Some things I would like to focus on in the article are:

• Pictures for the main characters (anime pictures, not novel pictures in the case of Boogiepop, etc)
• Continue with the plot "summary" starting the with the other main characters such as Manticor Phantom, Boogiepop Phantom, etc
• Find more references and create a reception section

Let me know what you think and I would appreciate any help you could give. Thanks Hellspawn 23:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

We already have one anime picture in the Boogiepop series article that would serve well. Another picture of Boogiepop and/or Boogiepop Phantom along with one of Manaka (with Poom Poom?) and her Butterflies would also be good, but any more would probably be pushing it. I had been intending on changing the basic format of the article, to make it more like the other ones, but that is not an urgent concern; it may be something to keep in mind though, as many of those subjects should be addressed here. I would also not recommend splitting the plot into the plots of the main characters, as there would be too much overlap. It would make more sense to just write the plot summary for the series; this would also help people who failed to understand the plot because it has been so split up in the anime. Sadly, there are few good (English) sources for Boogiepop, but if you check the base article you will find some useful ones as a starting point --- especially for reception. Elric of Grans 22:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Changed the plot summary to reflect the overall story rather than focusing on one character. I also added pictures for all the main characters (expect Miyashita san) (although all of the pictures are good, they aren't all the same size unfortunately). I also added a media section as suggested by the guidelines, and I plan to move onto the critical reception section next. Once I've done that, the article should hopefully only need some tidying up before it is deserving of a higher assessment. Hellspawn, 23:45 GW 16/02/07

Added a few more characters to the characters section. I don't think it's too long yet, since the Fate/Stay night article has a longer characters section but the article is GA. Also, my reasoning behind adding the "Other Important Characters" section is that these characters are important to the story of Boogiepop Phantom, but don't play any part in the present timeline, instead forming back story. In the case of Dr Kisugi, there is yet no article for that novel to explain the character so a semi-detailed character description is probably relevant here. I also modified some of the character entries to reflect the current timeline of Boogiepop Phantom and the slight alterations made to the plot of the novels. Apart from that, I think just More Murder should be added (picture impossible) and that will be the character section finished. What do you think?

No, it does not look too long to me either. I have no real objections to the expanded character section either, though ultimately it should be List of characters in the Boogiepop series article that gets the main character expansion. The character information in the media articles should be just the important information, while the character list is a little more in-depth; major characters should (and do) have their own articles for in-depth information. Personally I do not think Mo Murder needs to be in the Boogiepop Phantom article though; he is far too minor and insignificant to the plot. Boogiepop at Dawn, definitely, but not Boogiepop Phantom. Elric of Grans 10:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree about keeping the information on the characters to a minimum in the Boogiepop Phantom article, it's just hard to determine what's important to mention or leave out. I think More Murder should be added for one important reason: no one will have a clue about the meaning behind the scene in episode 5 where Suema is shown the memory of Dr Kisugi having killed More Murder unless they know that More Murder was the one who was framed for the killings. Other reasons inlude his murder of Seiichi Kirima and Shinpei Kuroda, both of which are shown in the anime. Also, since there is no Boogiepop at Dawn article yet, the Boogiepop Phantom article may be the only Wikipedia source on him.

On another note, do you think perhaps that Shinpei Kuroda should have a separate section from Ichirou Kishida Phantom, even though they are technically the same person. Is a plot spoiler that big necessary in the character section?

Tell me what you think about adding these last characters - Seichii Kirima (his writings are pivotal to the story), More Murder (above), Hisashi Jonouchi (thematic as well as plot importance), Misuzu Arifuji (also thematic and more importantly summoned the Manticore Phantom), Sayoko and Mamoru Oikawa (source of Poom Poom, death of Snake Eye, and two of the three children taken by Boogiepop Phantom).

Characters that don't (yet) need to be added to article - Yoji Sugunama (no relevance to current plot, serves mostly as exposition on Manticore and Saotome), Shizue Wakasa (same as Yoji)

Something else that should perhaps be discussed: After noticing that some of the characters had their powers described, I started mentioning details of other characters powers, but I'm not sure what format this should take. Is this perhaps best?

File:Boogiepop.jpg

Boogiepop

Boogiepop (ブギーポップ, Bugīpoppu)

Seiyū: Kaori Shimizu, voice actor: Debora Rabbai

The shinigami whispered of among the female students of Shinyo Academy, few people know that Boogiepop actually exists. Boogiepop is an alternate personality of Touka Miyashita that is normally dormant, but rises to the surface when enemies of the world appear. Boogiepop's appearance and voice are ambiguous: they seem both masculine and feminine at the same time, although Boogiepop does use the masculine form when referring to itself. Hidden beneath his signature black cloak and black, pipe-shaped hat, little is ever seen of him. Straight-faced and to the point, Boogiepop acts as mechanical as he claims to be. Boogiepop speaks in an archaic manner, and seems fond of whistling Wagner's Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg.

Abilities: Vast strength, endurance, and speed, partial or complete omniscience, skill with knives and microfilament wire.

Hellspawn 22:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

There is no need for Mo Murder in the article. He is never named, hardly seen and has no relevance to the plot. If people really need/want to read about him, that is what the List of characters in the Boogiepop series article is for. Likewise, minor characters only present for an episode are not worth including as they are not important enough. Kirima Seiichi even moreso, as he is not even in it – his writings are frequently present, but it does not mean he deserves a section in every single Boogiepop article. I do not believe an explicit list of powers is relevant either. Major characters (eg Boogiepop) should have something like that incorporated in their own articles, while others (eg Snake Eye) should have their powers mentioned as a part of the prose. Lists within articles should be avoided, with prose being the preferred standard on Wikipedia. Also, it is quite obvious that Boogiepop is not omniscient, and I cannot remember him using knives. Elric of Grans 21:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for uploading Image:Boogiepop.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 06:19, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:BoogiepopPhantomLimitedEdition.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:BoogiepopPhantomLimitedEdition.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 06:20, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Miyashita Touka.jpeg

Thanks for uploading Image:Miyashita Touka.jpeg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 02:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Manticore Phantom 2.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Manticore Phantom 2.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 03:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Pillar of light.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:Pillar of light.JPG. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 21:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Poom Poom.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:Poom Poom.JPG. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 17:05, 29 November 2007 (UTC)