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(I started archiving some older chat page stuff here: User talk:HouseOfChange/Archive 1. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:16, 6 April 2018 (UTC) (Now I am going to create a second chat archive for most of this chat here:User talk:HouseOfChange/Archive 2. HouseOfChange (talk) 10:28, 15 July 2018 (UTC) Starting a third archive:User talk:HouseOfChange/Archive 3. HouseOfChange (talk) 09:52, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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Thank you for your hard work on Mining in Sweden!

Snowycats (talk) 15:58, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Snowycats!! HouseOfChange (talk) 16:04, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi HOC! Can you help me to reestablish a page for Jaclyn Bradley Palmer. Tons of new international press. You were instrumental in trying to keep it months ago and it was said it needed to be written better with varied references. Going you can use your expertise to help.

DYK for Matthias Rauchmiller[edit]

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DYK for Helen Woodrow Bones[edit]

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Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for your Teamwork with me to rapidly contributing & improving content & references for the article about Suhai Aziz Talpur of current events. JogiAsad  Talk 15:03, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks so much for this Barnstar! I really appreciate it very much. It has been a pleasure collaborating with you on this article. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
I found you very courteous, thanks a lot, I want to make some of my articles featured, if you can help me to make it possible, I'll appreciate, Expecting a positive and a dignified role from you. And My pleasure too for collaboratively works.JogiAsad  Talk 23:36, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Women in Red[edit]

Hi there, HouseOfChange, and welcome to Women in Red. I'm really pleased to see you intend to work on AfDs. I see you have already saved a few and have also created a few women's biographies. Keep up the good work. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 08:41, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Seyfarth (scientist)[edit]

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Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

A page you started (P. van Heerdt tot Eversberg-Quarles van Ufford) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating P. van Heerdt tot Eversberg-Quarles van Ufford.

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Thank you, @Eddie891:! I found her name via the Women in Red project. She had quite an interesting life, so I need to think about something to translate into the very short "hook" form for DYK. HouseOfChange (talk) 23:39, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Nazo Dharejo[edit]

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Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Good work[edit]

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A glass of Thandai for you
Here is a glass of Thandai for you. Thandai is a traditional Indian cold drink prepared with a mixture of almonds, fennel seeds, watermelon kernels, rose petals, pepper, vetiver seeds, cardamom, saffron, milk and sugar.
Thanks for keeping wikipedia articles free from BLP Violations. Keep it up. cheers.
Thank you.

DBigXray 14:08, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

For more Indian dishes, visit the Kitchen of WikiProject India.

Thanks so much, @DBigXray:! I will do my best to live up to your kind words. HouseOfChange (talk) 04:22, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Shepard tables at DYK[edit]

Hi HouseOfChange -- I've commented briefly on this -- the text isn't long enough -- can you expand before a formal review? Espresso Addict (talk) 06:49, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi again, thanks for expanding! I've done a formal review and there are a few issues that still need addressing. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 23:05, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sarmad Masud[edit]

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DYK for Elena Ivanovna Barulina[edit]

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Precious[edit]

creative minds

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Thank you for quality articles such as Our Mathematical Universe, Matthias Rauchmiller and Elena Ivanovna Barulina, for rescuing articles from deletion, including Dorothy Cheney (scientist), for article improvements, including Sunrise Movement, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, @Gerda Arendt:! I am honored to be thought of in such company. I greatly admire your many and long-standing contributions to Wikipedia, so it makes me especially happy that you in particular like my work for the project. HouseOfChange (talk) 16:09, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, you are welcome! What do you think of an infobox for Barulina, because at a glance it looks like an article about lentils ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:53, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
As you wish, to quote a different farm boy. I will try to remember to add these in the future when creating articles. 19:44, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Shepard tables[edit]

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During the day it was at DYK, this got 16,082 page views! This was fun to write, an interesting topic. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Shepard elephant[edit]

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This got 16,274 pageviews during the day it was at DYK. I am glad because the Shepard elephant story is a very interesting one. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:26, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

How can we move forward?[edit]

Hi HouseOfChange. I was very pleased with your comments in response to your ELN query [1] [2]. I'd like to ignore your subsequent comments and find a way to move forward collaboratively. I'll not be editing the article further for two weeks, and am willing to work within 1RR afterwards. What do you suggest to help us work together? --Ronz (talk) 14:54, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Maybe we will get along better if you drop your aggressive rudeness on the talk page and in edit summaries?[3][4][5][6]
I would also like to hear your own explanation of why in 2015 Jimbo urged you to step back from editing the article about Al Seckel, also your explanation of why you decided to ignore that request.
Finally, it would be great if you showed signs of trying to create an informative Wikipedia article about Al Seckel, rather than focusing like a laser on removing material that might support his notability. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
I don't find that response very helpful, but will try to respond in the hopes that we'll make progress.
aggressive rudeness I disagree with your assessment. Maybe you can explain what specifically you find problematic?
I've no idea why Jimbo stepped in, so ignored it.
that might support his notability What does that even mean? I've asked for sources. When none are offered, I don't see how there can be any notability problems to address. --Ronz (talk) 16:25, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Re "none are offered": The statement that Seckel gave talks at TED and Davos, which you twice removed from the article, was amply supported by RS. The TED talk template which you removed is standard on many WP:GA including for example Steven Pinker and Al Gore. (Maybe that is why it's a TEMPLATE.) You removed it citing no policy or reason other than your personal belief it was "almost a spamlink." The only EL you were willing to spare was a link to Seckel with Jeffrey Epstein. The association of Seckel with Feynman was of longstanding, but RS-supported information about that you removed from the biography. The meeting with Epstein was much less important to Seckel's life, but of course Epstein gets his own boldface subtopic in the biography and is part of the EL.
If you want to improve relations with me or anyone else, act like a civil NPOV collaborator on pages where we co-edit. That's a better way to "make progress" than to invite my feedback and then deny you ever did anything that I could complain about. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:11, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
The issue with the link has been addressed by multiple independent experienced editors at the ELN discussion. Bring it up there if you've changed your mind.
You're bringing up content topics which I don't believe I've ever addressed. I'm not going to dig into them here and now.
Disagreeing with you is not denial. I asked for an explanation. If you're not going to give one, then how are we to proceed on the matter?
You didn't explain what "that might support his notability" means. You seem to be saying you want to give the topic more WP:PROMINENCE, and that WP:NOTABILITY might be involved. I asked for sources to determine if either applied. In my experience, that's what civil editors do when addressing POV issues. --Ronz (talk) 18:37, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Ronz:, I appreciate your lecture on WP:CIVIL and I am sure @Ammarpad: also enjoyed the one you gave him. It is a worthy followup to your assertion there was nothing rude about talk page responses like "Says who?" and an edit-summary claim that I'm a sneaky edit-warrior. Let's both work on AGF and WP:CIVIL at Al Seckel. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:12, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Let's both work on AGF and WP:CIVIL at Al Seckel That I agree with. I'm glad we've found some common ground in all this. --Ronz (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

VS Ramachandran[edit]

Your work on the VS Ramachandran entry has made it a better, more complete account of Ramachandran's contributions.Neurorel (talk) 19:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Neurorel. I appreciate your civility and will try to show more of the same. It will be great if we can collaborate on improving the encyclopedia article for Ramachandran and similar others that turn up when we are looking for RS with good information. HouseOfChange (talk) 20:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Paul Atherton[edit]

Thanks for the "Thank You" on my most recent edits on the article about Paul Atherton. As you know I'm concerned about putting much work (and I've done tons already) into the article until we can verify notability, but the article is seemingly starting to look like something that should be acceptable to Wiki-editors after your most recent edits and I was wondering if you'd advise putting it forward to AFD to get confirmation of its notability at this stage?

Also, there is a citation error, I beleive you made, on reference 21, that I've tried to correct but failed. It's unclear exactly what's gone wrong (if you do correct it, can you please tell me what the problem was)?

And finally, where should I put the entry about Atherton's work Our London Lives, does it come under Career or Personal? I would say, whilst it was filmed professionally, it was clearly a record of his life, so would put under personal but would be grateful of advice? Thanks Itsallnewtome (talk) 18:46, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Before trying a fourth AfD for this article, I suggest improving it as much as possible. That means adding relevant content backed up by reliable sources and removing content that is trivial and/or not supported by RS. The Cardiff University interview is clearly based on what Atherton told them about himself, but it is close enough to being RS that I am using it as a reference for the "first" claim about the Coca Cola billboard. London Lives if included is part of his work as a filmmaker. HouseOfChange (talk) 19:10, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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Jaclyn Bradley Palmer[edit]

Hello again. In July 2018, you kindly stated on my talk page: "So please continue to notify me on my talk page of articles about JBP and her activities, I will be glad to try again with her article when there's a chance of success." I have some new findings that may help:

Aside from needing to be written better (less promotional), contributors stated that there need be more press that was not local news and evidence of notability. These new awards, articles and literature mentions might help:

AWARDS: New Award: Best Original Music Video, 2018 (Love the Bodies We’re In) Utah Music Awards http://www.theutahmusicawards.com/?page_id=1000

Other awards. -Best pop video (A Loaded Gun) The Indie Gathering, http://theindiegathering.com/2017.html

             -Award of Recognition, Made of Gold, Documentary, 2016 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7073589/awards?ref_=nm_awd

PRESS: Authority Magazine, Sept 2018 To be notable on Wikipedia, one of the options/criteria is to have sung an original song on a notable TV show. This publication states: …“I was even able to perform my music live with Gretchen [Bonaduce] on their Vh1 show [Breaking Bonaduce]… which opened the door to licensing my original music to many other television shows and films. https://medium.com/authority-magazine/i-would-like-to-start-a-movement-where-more-people-enjoy-creating-music-simply-for-joy-with-b27587c1eb55?sk=aa75c0b80a6a6f98a3b6efd23cc135ee

Dublin Life (international news): https://www.dublinlive.ie/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/jaclynbradley-palmer-musicvideo-dublin-ireland-16993676

Guitar Girl: https://guitargirlmag.com/interviews/interview-jaclyn-bradley-palmer-helping-others-is-the-best-gig-of-all/

West Side Story News, Aug 2018 Recognizes the singer as an international artist. http://www.westsidestorynewspaper.com/exclusive-interview-los-angeles-based-pop-music-and-tv-icon-makes-strides-nationally-and-internationally/


Meaww, (June 2018) is a major entertainment news source and speaks about Jaclyn as only American on The Voice of Holland and also about her music video premiering at The Chinese Theater in Hollywood, CA. https://meaww.com/the-voice-contestant-to-walk-the-red-carpet

BOOKS: Jaclyn Bradley Palmer was acknowledged in New York Times Best-Selling book INDIANAPOLIS by Lynn Vincent. It mentioned her dedication and “hard work in keeping the legacies alive” of those who have perished, in reference to her documentary, page 544.

https://www.amazon.com/Indianapolis-Disaster-Fifty-Year-Exonerate-Innocent/dp/1501135945 Jaclyn was written about in Gretchen Bonaduce’s new memoir, “Surviving Agent Orange: and other things I learned from getting thrown under the Partridge Family Bus.” Gretchen mentions that Jaclyn was her assistant during the taping of the VH1 show, pages 144, 155, 192. https://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Agent-Orange-Learned-Partridge/dp/194557285X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1537872544&sr=1-1&keywords=surviving+agent+orange

Hopefully this, along with the previous citations --and that face that she conducted the largest music therapy study in history to bring live music into the operating room-- can help in creating a proper page for this person. Side note, Gretchen Bonaduce could use a page also, now that she is a published author and has starred in TV shows. Thank you for your help and expertise! You are more well versed than I. A kitten for YOU!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:60A2:9E00:69F1:8FAC:F419:AC3D (talk) 17:02, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I can't work on this now, but I am interested and look forward to looking at the items you mention. Just to remind you, the basic test for notability is significant (in-depth) coverage by independent sources. Other criteria can substitute for this, in specific categories of notability, but that is (my paraphrase of) the basic requirement. HouseOfChange (talk) 16:21, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Notability for films, BFI: I can't edit mainspace from this VPN, sorry[edit]

@4meter4: I am working in China this month, using a VPN that lets me see en.wiki but not edit except on my talk page. Most notable films meet WP:GNG. Some films that never got substantial coverage in independent media may still be notable, that is why WP:NFO exists. WP:NFO sets a high bar in each of its categories, because only films that fail GNG get tested by them. For example, criterion 3 a film that won "a major award for excellence in some aspect of filmmaking. Similarly in criterion 4 the benchmark for being "selected" is set high: the US National Film Registry selects only 25 each year. (It selects films based on quality or importance, not popularity.) BFI is a prestigious group that tries to collect all the best new films every year. I intend no disrespect to the BFI when I say that the hundreds of thousands of films they have selected and archived did not instantly become Wikipedia-notable on their selection. HouseOfChange (talk) 05:09, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I will leave a note about your response at the AFD.4meter4 (talk) 09:41, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
@4meter4: Could you also please post my request to @Itsallnewtome: to take a look at the annual selections for the US National Film Archive. The fact that the public is invited to propose films does not mean that the collection reflects a public vote. Dixon-Wanamaker Expedition to Crow Agency (1908), The Girl Without a Soul (1917), and Something Good - Negro Kiss (1898) -- all of these among the 25 chosen in 2018 -- reflect curatorial choice not commercial success. This has been pointed out many times to Itsallnewtome, who continues to assert that the US National Archive bases its choices on public popularity. HouseOfChange (talk) 12:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
@4meter4: @HouseOfChange: If the National Film Resgistry (NFR) weren't basing their decision on public influence, then clearly there would be no public nomination system. Again if you find me a National Film Archive (not a collection in a Library) that draws it's selection from a Public Nomination, there would be at least one other, if you can't, you have to accept my argument, that the term "National Film Archive" should not be used as a notability guide. The other films collected in 2018 in the NFR included Cinderella, Broke Back Mountain, Jurassic Park and in the previous year Die Hard & Dumbo. Equally find me a National Film Archive that selects films at 25 per year or less. Otherwise the guidline should read accepted into the National Film Registry. As it stands though, it reads accepted into a National Film Archive which of course The Ballet of Change: Piccadilly Circus was. I cannot find anythimg remotely like the kind of films The Ballet of Change series are, a different type of film, screened in an unusual way and including archive material not usually on view to the public in the list of films at the NFR. The selection criteria for the National Registry is no different to that of the BFI though "Aesthetically, Historical or Culturally important". So the selection criteria is identical for both institutions. This then comes down to an issue on numbers, and unless someone knows, I am unaware of how many films per year the BFI took in the same period as the NFR, for all we know at this stage, it could be less? My issue, is, and always has been the use of the term "seleceted into the National Film Archive" citing an example that cannot be replicated is not logical, so unless a similar institution to be the NFR can be found in a National Film Archive anywhere in the world, it cannot be used as an example but become the default or accept any film taken into a NFA is notable Itsallnewtome (talk) 14:36, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
@4meter4: @Itsallnewtome: The 750 films in the US National Archive are considered Wikipedia-notable, per policy. This does not require that each of the 50,000 feature films, 100,000 nonfiction films, and innumerable TV episodes in the BFI archive ought to have its own article. It makes no sense to claim that WP:NFO #4 confers notability on so many items. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:36, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
@4meter4: @HouseOfChange: Again, I reiterate, the National Film Registry is just a "list", it is not an "archive", as I've evidenced on the AFD. It is a list of films held in other archives or other locations. It is emphatically NOT an archive in itself. Which has been my argument the whole time. Itsallnewtome (talk) 21:57, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
@4meter4: @Itsallnewtome: The point of the policy is that the films on the archive's list were chosen by a very selective process. It didn't concern the people who wrote the policy whether items on the list were stored in a vault, or uploaded to the cloud, or displayed on a library shelf, etc. etc. That is a trivial matter unrelated to whether the items on some list become notable by being added to that list, or don't. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:51, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
I have no issue with your interpretation HouseOfChange, so there's no need to ping me. Your position is consistent with policy as it is currently written and I concur with your opinions at the AFD. I do, however, sympathize with Itsallnewtome and believe the policy is more strict than it should be by providing an example that is not reproducible anywhere else. I personally would welcome a different example or at least multiple examples at that policy so we can more fairly assess cases like these. But that is a discussion to be had at the village pump or at the talk page of WP:NFILM and not at an AFD.4meter4 (talk) 02:01, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

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