User talk:HumbleWise

Carousel (Marcia Griffiths album)

Hello. Welcome to Wikipedia. Please stop vandalizing this page--multiple sources indicate that Bunny wrote the song in 1976. If you feel differently, you will need to cite reliable sources, not mention your original research. Please visit Wikipedia:Teahouse for help with your editing. Another good page is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums. If you continue to add unsourced information, you may receive an administrative warning or an editing block. Please revert any other changes you made that inserted the incorrect year. Thank you. Cheers. Caro7200 (talk) 22:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you insist on claiming that this recording is from 1976, you must provide evidence that such a recording exists. However, there is no evidence of a demo or recording of Bunny Wailer's "Electric Boogie" until the year 1980.

It is impossible for Bunny Wailer to have written or released the song "Electric Boogie" in 1976 because, at that time, he was a devout Rastafarian more focused on writing spiritual or protest songs against the system, and had just released his first solo album. On the other hand, the title "Electric Boogie" with "Electric Rap" on the B-side alludes to "electric boogie" as a subgenre of funk and the emerging electronic music that arose in the late 70s and early 80s, something that did not exist in 1976.

Additionally, in 1976, electronic music was in its nascent stages. While there were pioneers like Kraftwerk, the "electric boogie" subgenre had not yet been defined or popularized. The rise of electro-funk and the widespread use of drum machines and synthesizers did not occur until the late 70s and early 80s.

Bunny Wailer's first solo album, *Blackheart Man* (1976), consists mainly of spiritual and protest songs. The sound and themes of this album are very different from what would be expected of a song like "Electric Boogie." *Blackheart Man* is considered a masterpiece of roots reggae and reflects his deep commitment to the Rastafarian faith, making it unlikely that he was creating music that did not reflect these values at that time.

Moreover, there are no records of a song called "Electric Boogie" in Bunny Wailer's discography during the 1970s. Bunny Wailer even compiled all his singles in different compilations and does not mention any recording called "Electric Boogie." Collectors place that song in 1980 and 1983.

The term and style "electric boogie" gained popularity in breakdance and hip-hop circles in the late 70s and early 80s, particularly with the influence of songs like Afrika Bambaataa's "Planet Rock" (1982), which fused elements of funk and electronic music.

In conclusion, it is undeniably Bunny Wailer who sings the song "Electric Boogie," and it is historically and musically implausible for this song to have originated in 1976. HumbleWise (talk) 00:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but, again, this is all original research--you must use reliable sources to substantiate your claims. Two reliable sources cited in the article say that Bunny wrote the song in 1976: refs 10 and 11. Additionally, the Courier-Post, The Gleaner, the Times Union, Reggae Vibe Magazine, and The Guardian report the same. Cheers. Caro7200 (talk) 00:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the need to use reliable sources, but it is also crucial to consider the historical context and the logic behind the claims. While multiple sources may repeat the same information, this does not make it true, especially when there is no demo or recording of this song before 1980. The historical and musical context suggests that "Electric Boogie" could not have been written in 1976 due to the absence of the "electric boogie" subgenre at that time. HumbleWise (talk) 03:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're still missing the point--a majority of reliable sources state that Bunny wrote the song in 1976. Whether he recorded it or copyrighted it in 1980 is an entirely different matter. Wikipedia is dependent on what reliable sources say. Again, please visit the Teahouse for help with your editing. The source you added does not state that Bunny wrote the song in 1980; you continue to rely on your personal interpretation of musical history. Cheers. Caro7200 (talk) 11:51, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will post to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums--please join the conversation there. Caro7200 (talk) 12:07, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted to the talk page in an effort to resolve this and stop the warring. Caro7200 (talk) 21:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that you are acting in bad faith, as everything I have posted has been taken from reliable sources, yet you continue to delete my contributions. In fact, someone else posted the same quote that I had originally posted, and you did not delete it.

Cheers. HumbleWise (talk) 22:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on the album talk page. Aside from the Spanish source, when I AGF'd, your editing is based on original research and personal opinion--you have chosen to ignore the reliable sources. Your addition of the interview was cited to a vanity press, as was explained in the edit summary. Again, it would be helpful if you made your case on the album talk page. Cheers. Caro7200 (talk) 22:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see this edit summary: "Humblewise, you already acknowledged BW copyrighted "Electric Boogie" in 1980--you posted the discogs link; additionally, you must cite your sources in text; additionally, BW is offended by the vibrator association, and his statement contradicts his copyright." You need to pay more attention to your editing. I will repost on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums and ask an admin to weigh in. Cheers. Caro7200 (talk) 23:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The original release was in 1982, not 1980, and here's the evidence: Bunny was still distributing his own Solomonic label from his distribution base on Retirement Rd, beside Neville Lee's Sonic Sounds in 1983. Note that the label of the 45 says "Sonic Sounds, 25 Retirement Rd", however in 1983, Sonic Sounds was still located at 14 Retirement Rd. Neville Lee moved his Sonic Sounds operations to 25 Retirement Road a few years later as he needed more space for his pressing plant and office. A copy of the original release label is below, and it clearly shows "Solomonic" was the distributor. The label you are showing is a repress, with possibly 1980 suggesting a backdate. My question on the Island release is this: it says "original sound recording made by Island", although it credits Bunny with composition. HumbleWise (talk) 00:45, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 2024

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My contributions have been made in good faith, based on reliable bibliographic sources, including primary sources. I have consistently aimed to improve the accuracy and quality of the content, adhering to Wikipedia’s guidelines on verifiability and neutrality. HumbleWise (talk) 01:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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My contributions have been made in good faith, based on reliable bibliographic sources, including primary sources. I have consistently aimed to improve the accuracy and quality of the content, adhering to Wikipedia’s guidelines on verifiability and neutrality. I will ensure to focus on making constructive and respectful contributions. I appreciate your consideration in reviewing my unblock request. HumbleWise (talk) 01:38, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Electric Boogie dispute

Please continue the discussion in Talk:Electric Boogie#Written in 1976?, where the subject of the disagreement belongs. --Altenmann >talk 23:15, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't you notice this shouting notice in Talk:Carousel (Marcia Griffiths album)? --Altenmann >talk 02:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

My contributions have always been made in good faith, and I wasn't aware that I needed to go to a discussion page, but I have done so now, and I would like to request to be unblocked. In these discussions, I have always been respectful and neutral; in fact, some administrators have agreed with me. HumbleWise (talk) 11:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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You've given no reason here why you need access to the single article you are blocked from editing before the block expires. 331dot (talk) 12:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism

HW, you returned to vandalizing as soon as you were able to, so I'll contact an admin. Cheers. Caro7200 (talk) 14:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I'm sorry to hear that you see my contributions in that light. My intention is not to vandalize but to improve the article with accurate and well-sourced information. If there are specific points you disagree with, I’m more than willing to discuss them in a constructive manner. I'm also fully supportive of having an administrator review the situation. I believe that working together respectfully will lead to a better and more informative article for everyone.

Cheers. HumbleWise (talk) 16:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]