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GOCE February 2018 news[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors February 2018 News
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Welcome to the February 2018 GOCE newsletter in which you will find Guild updates since the December edition. We got to a great start for the year, holding the backlog at nine months. 100 requests were submitted in the first 6 weeks of the year and were swiftly handled with an average completion time of 9 days.

Coordinator elections: In December, coordinators for the first half of 2018 were elected. Jonesey95 remained as lead coordinator and Corrine, Miniapolis and Tdslk as assistant coordinators. Keira1996 stepped down as assistant coordinator and was replaced by Reidgreg. Thanks to all who participated!

End of year reports were prepared for 2016 and 2017, providing a detailed look at the Guild's long-term progress.

January drive: We set out to remove April, May, and June 2017 from our backlog and all December 2017 Requests (a total of 275 articles). As with previous years, the January drive was an outstanding success and by the end of the month all but 57 of these articles were cleared. Officially, of the 38 who signed up, 21 editors recorded 259 copy edits (490,256 words).

February blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 11 through 17 February, focusing on Requests and the last articles tagged in May 2017. At the end of the week there were only 14 pending requests, with none older than 20 days. Of the 11 who signed up, 10 editors completed 35 copy edits (98,538 words).

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Miniapolis, Corinne, Tdslk, and Reidgreg.

To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:00, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

June 2018 GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors June 2018 News
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Welcome to the June 2018 GOCE newsletter, in which you will find Guild updates since the February edition. Progress continues to be made on the copyediting backlog, which has been reduced to 7 months and reached a new all-time low. Requests continue to be handled efficiently this year, with 272 completed by the end of May (an average completion time of 10.5 days). Fewer than 10% of these waited longer than 20 days, and the longest wait time was 29 days.

Wikipedia in general, and the Guild in particular, experienced a deep loss with the death on 20 March of Corinne. Corinne (a GOCE coordinator since 1 July 2016) was a tireless aide on the requests page, and her peerless copyediting is a part of innumerable GAs and FAs. Her good cheer, courtesy and tact are very much missed.

March drive: The goal was to remove June, July and August 2017 from our backlog and all February 2018 Requests (a total of 219 articles). This drive was an outstanding success, and by the end of the month all but eight of these articles were cleared. Of the 33 editors who signed up, 19 recorded 277 copy edits (425,758 words).

April blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 15 through 21 April, focusing on Requests and the last eight articles tagged in August 2017. At the end of the week there were only 17 pending requests, with none older than 17 days. Of the nine editors who signed up, eight editors completed 22 copy edits (62,412 words).

May drive: We set out to remove September, October and November 2017 from our backlog and all April 2018 Requests (a total of 298 articles). There was great success this month with the backlog more than halved from 1,449 articles at the beginning of the month to a record low of 716 articles. Officially, of the 20 who signed up, 15 editors recorded 151 copy edits (248,813 words).

Coordinator elections: It's election time again. Nominations for Guild coordinators (who will serve a six-month term for the second half of 2018) have begun, and will close at 23:59 UTC on 15 June. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are eligible, and self-nominations are encouraged. Voting will take place between 00:01 UTC on 16 June and 23:59 UTC on 30 June.

June blitz: Stay tuned for this one-week copy-editing blitz, which will take place in mid-June.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Corinne, Jonesey95, Miniapolis, Reidgreg and Tdslk.

To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:26, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Script-assisted cleanups: imaginary death dates[edit]

Hydragyrum, thanks for your recent "script-assisted cleanups" of various pages.

Your script, for some reason, inserts a commented-out death date into living person's infoboxes. Of course, a commented-out date doesn't appear in the page, so it doesn't violate BLP. Nonetheless, if I were famous enough to have my own Wikipedia article, and out of curiosity I clicked on "edit" and saw that my death date was already listed but commented out, I might find it rather creepy! It's as if Wikipedia were just waiting for me to pass away.

I've fixed the two instances of this that I found: [1] [2] If there's any way to tell your script not to do this, that would be great! Thanks. — Lawrence King (talk) 23:22, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Lawrence King: They're not "imaginary death dates". They're placeholders for inevitable death dates. Nobody escapes it — not you, not I, nor even Jesus of Nazareth. Yes, I can fix the script. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 23:38, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
My bad. When I saw the form, I saw that it wasn't blank -- it had dates already filled in, like this: Death date and age|YYYY|MM|DD|1950|01|09. But now I understand that the filled in dates are not the anticipated death dates, but rather are the birth date which is used to calcuate the age. Nevermind! — Lawrence King (talk) 00:22, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
@Lawrence King: It's quite alright. In addition to working on Wikipedia, I also occasionally work on Find A Grave, which includes visiting local cemeteries to snap photos, where one will find headstones of living people, already inscribed with their birth date and a blank space for the death date. One can think of them as placeholders, too. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 15:26, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Norm Macdonald[edit]

lol I was reading Norm's talk page for some reason and saw your old comment from 2010. You might want to talk about John A. Macdonald, Canada's first prime minister and a Scotsman.24.137.114.17 (talk) 02:36, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Removing convert templates[edit]

This otherwise good edit that you made removed {{cvt}} and {{convert}} and replaced them with plaintext, which should not have happened. Was this an error in the script you were using? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:09, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: It was deliberate, and I only do it in the lede section, i.e., the first 200 words, or so, because tool-tip previews suppress display of templates. Putting inline templates in the lede results in run-together text or a puzzling syntax discontinuity, defeating the purpose of tool-tip previews. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 00:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
And by that you mean WP:POP? It has a setting to attempt to render templates. If the default settings of the gadget are causing problems with the convert template, the solution is to fix the problem in the gadget, not to remove widely used templates from articles without explanation in the edit summary. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
@Pi.1415926535: Yeah, perhaps I should have written a summary paragraph, or broken down the edit into 20 steps, each with its own detailed summary. The correct solution is not to use inline templates in the lede in the first place, and being an experienced computer user and programmer since circa 1970, I can guarantee you that 99.9% of Wikipedia users will never figure out how change the default behavior of Navigation popups or even take the time to read the relevant Wikipedia page. Wikipedia isn't and shouldn't be a site for nerds only. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 02:41, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
You're making a potentially controversial and non-obvious edit by removing those templates - the onus is on you to explain it in whatever way that you best can. (You don't have to break down all the parts of the edit, but explaining unusual aspects is a reasonable thing to ask.) In this case, I strongly object to you worsening an article for all readers and editors in order to accommodate a buggy opt-in script. Why not fix the popups instead of hurting the articles? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:26, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Alternately, you could comment out the replaced convert templates. The comment would explain the purpose of the substitution, and make it easy to reverse when the popups fixed. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:13, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
@Pi.1415926535: I like your suggestions. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 15:30, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

August GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors August 2018 Newsletter
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Hello and welcome to the August 2018 GOCE newsletter. Thanks to everyone who participated in the Guild's June election; your new and returning coordinators are listed below. The next election will occur in December 2018; all Wikipedia editors in good standing may take part.

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Our June blitz focused on Requests and articles tagged for copy edit in October 2017. Of the eleven people who signed up, eight editors recorded a total of 28 copy edits, including 3 articles of more than 10,000 words. Complete results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Thanks to everyone who participated in the July drive. Of the seventeen people who signed up, thirteen editors completed 194 copy edits, successfully removing all articles tagged in the last three months of 2017. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are here.

The August blitz will run for one week, from 19 to 25 August. Sign up now!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Tdslk.

To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:25, 15 August 2018 (UTC)