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I am wandering through fields of pineapples...[edit]

Pineapples. Very nice ones. Slightly sweet, slightly tangy, not too much acid. I'm from Illogicopedia. Try to figure out which user I am, without looking at my user page (which reveals the truth) OK? ;) IllogicMink talk about it 06:40, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Man, I don't know who anyone is anyway. Where's the juice even gone these days? -— Isarra 06:52, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Me. Me. Me. Did I even show it? The fields of pineapples. So acidic. So dry. Think I'll stick to bananas... IllogicMink talk about it 05:00, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
So long as there are no lobsters I wouldn't worry about it. Did you know Wikipedia's coverage of obscure philosophy sucks? I'm not even sure how much of it is obscure. It's worrisome. We need more obscure philosophy for the fnurdles. -— Isarra 08:05, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Hindleyism, too. Do you want to help me with the religion? IllogicMink talk about it 08:16, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Nope. -— Isarra 08:31, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
I thought not. These are the times of darkness, when nothing is sure. No lights permeate the consciousness. There is only dark, and there is only banana cheese. The fnurdles, they hide. Not fascinated, not interested. Not partial to rainbows, they weren't. So they didn't. Obscure philosophy was the only way they could find it. IllogicMink talk about it 09:15, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Wading through connection timeout errors, I can only agree. -— Isarra 09:23, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
But why? IllogicMink talk about it 09:30, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm at a wikimedia hackathon, which, hilariously, mean's it's all for a pile of internetty stuff. So naturally we have no working internet. It would be worthy of ?pedia, but I can't seem to access ?pedia. -— Isarra 09:33, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
OK. So dry. Nothing will stand forever. IllogicMink talk about it 10:19, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 4[edit]

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Newsletter • May/June 2015

Hello friends! We have been hard at work these past two months. For this report:

The directory is live!

For the first time, we are happy to bring you an exhaustive, comprehensive WikiProject Directory. This directory endeavors to list every single WikiProject on the English Wikipedia, including those that don't participate in article assessment. In constructing the broadest possible definition, we have come up with a list of approximately 2,600 WikiProjects. The directory tracks activity statistics on the WikiProject's pages, and, for where it's available, statistics on the number of articles tracked by the WikiProject and the number of editors active on those articles. Complementing the directory are description pages for each project, listing usernames of people active on the WikiProject pages and the articles in the WikiProject's scope. This will help Wikipedians interested in a subject find each other, whether to seek feedback on an article or to revive an old project. (There is an opt-out option.) We have also come up with listings of related WikiProjects, listing the ten most relevant WikiProjects based on what articles they have in common. We would like to promote WikiProjects as interconnected systems, rather than isolated silos.

A tremendous amount of work went into preparing this directory. WikiProjects do not consistently categorize their pages, meaning we had to develop our own index to match WikiProjects with the articles in their scope. We also had to make some adjustments to how WikiProjects were categorized; indeed, I personally have racked up a few hundred edits re-categorizing WikiProjects. There remains more work to be done to make the WikiProject directory truly useful. In the meantime, take a look and feel free to leave feedback at the WikiProject X talk page.

Stuff in the works!

What have we been working on?

  • A new design template—This has been in the works for a while, of course. But our goal is to design something that is useful and cleanly presented on all browsers and at all screen resolutions while working within the confines of what MediaWiki has to offer. Additionally, we are working on designs for the sub-components featured on the main project page.
  • A new WikiProject talk page banner in Lua—Work has begun on implementing the WikiProject banner in Lua. The goal is to create a banner template that can be usable by any WikiProject in lieu of having its own template. Work has slowed down for now to focus on higher priority items, but we are interested in your thoughts on how we could go about creating a more useful project banner. We have a draft module on Test Wikipedia, with a demonstration.
  • New discussion reports—We have over 4.8 million articles on the English Wikipedia, and almost as many talk pages as well. But what happens when someone posts on a talk page? What if no one is watching that talk page? We are currently testing out a system for an automatically-updating new discussions list, like RFC for WikiProjects. We currently have five test pages up for the WikiProjects on cannabis, cognitive science, evolutionary biology, and Ghana.
  • SuggestBot for WikiProjects—We have asked the maintainer of SuggestBot to make some minor adjustments to SuggestBot that will allow it to post regular reports to those WikiProjects that ask for them. Stay tuned!
  • Semi-automated article assessment—Using the new revision scoring service and another system currently under development, WikiProjects will be getting a new tool to facilitate the article assessment process by providing article quality/importance predictions for articles yet to be assessed. Aside from helping WikiProjects get through their backlogs, the goal is to help WikiProjects with collecting metrics and triaging their work. Semi-automation of this process will help achieve consistent results and keep the process running smoothly, as automation does on other parts of Wikipedia.

Want us to work on any other tools? Interested in volunteering? Leave a note on our talk page.

The WikiProject watchers report is back!

The database report which lists WikiProjects according to the number of watchers (i.e., people that have the project on their watchlist), is back! The report stopped being updated a year ago, following the deactivation of the Toolserver, but a replacement report has been generated.


Until next time, Harej (talk) 22:20, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

That particular comment[edit]

It's one thing to oppose the RfA. That commenter in particular was saying in no uncertain terms that XTools is important to him and he's not satisfied with it's service and the candidate has no business with the tools until service meets commenter's expectations. That is beyond the pale to say to a volunteer. If I were in Cyber's shoes and my candidacy was being opposed based on the quality of service I'm providing, I'd drop the tools altogether and make it a non-issue. That comment is particularly snarky and unappreciative and well beyond the level of criticism warranted and what any of the other opposes have said.--v/r - TP 23:07, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Where is the snark? The point that asking for more tools when existing ones have a history of poor maintainability is perfectly valid when a common reason for supporting the candidate's nomination is exactly that - his work on tools. Now whether or not we agree with it is up to us, but I can certainly see why it might be a concern. -— Isarra 02:12, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I can see why it might be a concern, and that's why I haven't criticized anyone else whose concern was the tools. The way that it was made in that comment was particularly nasty, though, imho. Afterall, Anthonyhcole also made a comment about the availability of the tools and I clarified that my concern wasn't what was said but how it was said here. It's one thing to say that the tools haven't been available and that the candidate might not have a lot of time. But the comment "says in giant letters that Cyberpower678 has no business gunning for more tools." Don't you think telling someone what there business was, and not only that but saying that it is in "giant letters" is well beyond snarky?--v/r - TP 03:20, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Seems fairly matter of fact to me; the size and concrete wording more seemed to emphasise how strongly they feel than anything else, whereas snarky would be, if anything, doing the opposite. Using size and vagueness, maybe calling out a specific example and saying the opposite, or posing questions if someone like X is someone we can really trust with sensitive tools, do we want example of horrible thing Y to happen, sarcastic comment Z, or stuff like that.
Mind you, as an uncyclopedian, my views on snark may be a bit jaded. We kind of communicate primarily in snark there, so little things are more easily missed. On the other hand, the way we read stuff that's writing is often not what's intended anyhow. You read it one way, I read it another, turns out both are wrong, perhaps. -— Isarra 03:34, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Vitruvian Barnstar Hires.png The Technical Barnstar
Thank you so much for leading the WikiProject X design team in creating WikiProject XX/WiR in about 48 hours during Wikimania 2015 Mexico City. The project page is beautiful! I recognize how technically challenging this has been; and I know that there are lots of additional features we'll want as time goes on. But please know that your work is much appreciated by the the project's co-founders. Again, thank you. Rosiestep (talk) 17:07, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

HEADER WHAT[edit]

I don't exist. MyOwnBadSelf (talk) 23:39, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

What. Also headers, man. -— Isarra 23:55, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. MyOwnBadSelf (talk) 06:08, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Meow. --DSA510 Pls No Level Up 18:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Your signature is horrifying. You should make it simpler. -— Isarra 01:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
But it's made with whole grain! --DSA510 Pls No Level Up 05:59, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Horrifying. -— Isarra 23:19, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Whole grain! --DSA510 Pls No Level Up 23:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Maybe. I feel like I'm forgetting to do something. -— Isarra 02:43, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Your sig might be made of whole grain, but mine is made of soy! MyOwnBadSelf (talk) 08:37, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Well, mine is mung. -— Isarra 18:45, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
100% pure millet here! --MyOwnBadSelf | Consult the Fossil 23:56, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Chicken waffles need to be wrapped around the cake. It's the way to get the lobster properly shaped. Hyena blazing. -— Isarra 02:54, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Vertolic mesasota. 137.147.204.114 (talk) 06:13, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
My signature is made of wikicode, not soy or any grain of the sort. MyOwnBadSelf | Consult the Fossil 07:13, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Traitorous scum. -— Isarra 14:59, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for injecting the daily dose of nonsense into Wikipedia. MyOwnBadSelf | Consult the Fossil 11:17, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
"Daily dose" is a most unfortunate choice of words, considering I am the OP, and my signature. But do not fret, all shall be amended in due time by our lord and saviour, Lowercase Sigmabot III. --DSA510 Pls No Bully 21:01, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

beetle[edit]

Your wikibeetle is the most delightful work of art. – SJ + 08:25, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, man. I appreciate it. -— Isarra 18:46, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject TAFI[edit]

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Hello, Isarra. You're invited to join WikiProject Today's articles for improvement, a project dedicated to significantly improving articles with collaborative editing in a week's time.

Feel free to nominate an article for improvement at the project's Article nomination board. If interested in joining, please add your name to the list of members. Thanks for your consideration. North America1000 09:03, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 5[edit]

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Newsletter • October 2015

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

We did it!

In July, we launched five pilot WikiProjects: WikiProjects Cannabis, Evolutionary Biology, Ghana, Hampshire, and Women's Health. We also use the new design, named "WPX UI," on WikiProject Women in Technology, Women in Red, WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health. We are currently looking for projects for the next round of testing. If you are interested, please sign up on the Pilots page.

Shortly after our launch we presented at Wikimania 2015. Our slides are on Wikimedia Commons.

Then after all that work, we went through the process of figuring out whether we accomplished our goal. We reached out to participants on the redesigned WikiProjects, and we asked them to complete a survey. (If you filled out your survey—thank you!) While there are still some issues with the WikiProject tools and the new design, there appears to be general satisfaction (at least among those who responded). The results of the survey and more are documented in our grant report filed with the Wikimedia Foundation.

The work continues!

There is more work that needs to be done, so we have applied for a renewal of our grant. Comments on the proposal are welcome. We would like to improve what we have already started on the English Wikipedia and to also expand to Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. Why those? Because they are multilingual projects and because there needs to be better coordination across Wikimedia projects. More details are available in the renewal proposal.

How can the Wikimedia Foundation support WikiProjects?

The Wikimedia Developer Summit will be held in San Francisco in January 2016. The recently established Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in investigating what technical support they can provide for WikiProjects, i.e., support beyond just templates and bots. I have plenty of opinions myself, but I want to hear what you think. The session is being planned on Phabricator, the Wikimedia bug tracker. If you are not familiar with Phabricator, you can log in with your Wikipedia username and password through the "Login or Register: MediaWiki" button on the login page. Your feedback can help make editing Wikipedia a better experience.


Until next time,

Harej (talk) 09:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

?[edit]

The alchemist living with the cream puff self-flagellates, because a halfhearted toothache laughs and drinks all night with a starlet from the trombone. An unsightly amour-propre, some tea party from the dilettante, and the cream puff living with a ribbon are what got Jean-Pierre into trouble. The marzipan wakes up, and a cleavage behind a piroshki beams with joy; however, an espadrille from a clodhopper borrows money from a snow living with a philosopher. Sometimes a tenor behind a stalactite procrastinates, but a dilettante always amorously secretly admires a philosopher inside the toothache! Keegan (talk) 20:50, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

The putrescence gibbers in the corner while we all wait batedly for the cake. I don't know if it's time yet, but if you ever see the philosopher mandating Mr. Psychologist (someone's cat? I don't remember) eat more turnips, I think we have a problem. This isn't the full picture. The model is incompletely. More generation is clearly needed. -— Isarra 22:09, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

[Hissing Noises][edit]

Shall you run for arbcom this year? --DSA510 Pls No Bully 16:50, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Maybe. I need to get better at pies, though. I need to see if I can get exactly three times as many opposes as supports. -— Isarra 20:49, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
What is an arbitrator, but a miserable pile of pies? --DSA510 Pls No Bully 20:58, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Miserable they may be for the amount of crap that gets thrown at them, but if they really were piles of pies, don't you think there would be at least some instances of them eating each other? -— Isarra 21:07, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Pies graze on grass silly. --DSA510 Pls No Bully 04:39, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I disagree. MyOwnBadSelf | Consult the Fossil 05:19, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm tempted to report you to AN/I for this transgression, however I realized that AN/I is a social construct, like mechanical keyboards or good open source nVidia drivers. --DSA510 Pls No Bully 12:09, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:25, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 6[edit]

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Newsletter • January 2016

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

What comes next

Some good news: the Wikimedia Foundation has renewed WikiProject X. This means we can continue focusing on making WikiProjects better.

During our first round of work, we created a prototype WikiProject based on two ideas: (1) WikiProjects should clearly present things for people to do, and (2) The content of WikiProjects should be automated as much as possible. We launched pilots, and for the most part it works. But this approach will not work for the long term. While it makes certain aspects of running a WikiProject easier, it makes the maintenance aspects harder.

We are working on a major overhaul that will address these issues. New features will include:

  • Creating WikiProjects by simply filling out a form, choosing which reports you want to generate for your project. This will work with existing bots in addition to the Reports Bot reports. (Of course, you can also have sections curated by humans.)
  • One-click button to join a WikiProject, with optional notifications.
  • Be able to define your WikiProject's scope within the WikiProject itself by listing relevant pages and categories, eliminating the need to tag every talk page with a banner. (You will still be allowed to do that, of course. It just won't be required.)

The end goal is a collaboration tool that can be used by WikiProjects but also by any edit-a-thon or group of people that want to coordinate on improving articles. Though implemented as an extension, the underlying content will be wikitext, meaning that you can continue to use categories, templates, and other features as you normally would.

This will take a lot of work, and we are just getting started. What would you like to see? I invite you to discuss on our talk page.


Until next time,

Harej (talk) 02:53, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 7[edit]

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Newsletter • February 2016

This month:

One database for Wikipedia requests

Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

In the meantime, we are working on a prototype for a new service we hope to announce soon. The problem: there are requests scattered all across Wikipedia, including requests for new articles and requests for improvements to existing articles. We Wikipedians are very good at coming up with lists of things to do. But once we write these lists, where do they end up? How can we make them useful for all editors—even those who do not browse the missing articles lists, or the particular WikiProjects that have lists?

Introducing Wikipedia Requests, a new tool to centralize the various lists of requests around Wikipedia. Requests will be tagged by category and WikiProject, making it easier to find requests based on what your interests are. Accompanying this service will be a bot that will let you generate reports from this database on any wiki page, including WikiProjects. This means that once a request is filed centrally, it can syndicated all throughout Wikipedia, and once it is fulfilled, it will be marked as "complete" throughout Wikipedia. The idea for this service came about when I saw that it was easy to put together to-do lists based on database queries, but it was harder to do this for human-generated requests when those requests are scattered throughout the wiki, siloed throughout several pages. This should especially be useful for WikiProjects that have overlapping interests.

The newsletter this month is fairly brief; not a lot of news, just checking in to say that we are hard at work and hope to have more for you soon.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 8[edit]

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Newsletter • March / April 2016

This month:

Transclude article requests anywhere on Wikipedia

In the last issue of the WikiProject X Newsletter, I discussed the upcoming Wikipedia Requests system: a central database for outstanding work on Wikipedia. I am pleased to announce Wikipedia Requests is live! Its purpose is to supplement automatically generated lists, such as those from SuggestBot, Reports bot, or Wikidata. It is currently being demonstrated on WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health (which I work on as part of my NIOSH duties) and WikiProject Women scientists.

Adding a request is as simple as filling out a form. Just go to the Add form to add your request. Adding sources will help ensure that your request is fulfilled more quickly. And when a request is fulfilled, simply click "mark as complete" and it will be removed from all the lists it's on. All at the click of a button! (If anyone is concerned, all actions are logged.)

With this new service is a template to transclude these requests: {{Wikipedia Requests}}. It's simple to use: add the template to a page, specifying article=, category=, or wikiproject=, and the list will be transcluded. For example, for requests having to do with all living people, just do {{Wikipedia Requests|category=Living people}}. Use these lists on WikiProjects but also for edit-a-thons where you want a convenient list of things to do on hand. Give it a shot!

Help us build our list!

The value of Wikipedia Requests comes from being a centralized database. The long work to migrating individual lists into this combined list is slowly underway. As of writing, we have 883 open tasks logged in Wikipedia Requests. We need your help building this list.

If you know of a list of missing articles, or of outstanding tasks for existing articles, that you would like to migrate to this new system, head on over to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Requests#Transition project and help out. Doing this will help put your list in front of more eyes—more than just your own WikiProject.

An open database means new tools

WikiProject X maintains a database that associates article talk pages (and draft talk pages) with WikiProjects. This database powers many of the reports that Reports bot generates. However, until very recently, this database was not made available to others who might find its data useful. It's only common sense to open up the database and let others build tools with it.

And indeed: Citation Hunt, the game to add citations to Wikipedia, now lets you filter by WikiProject, using the data from our database.

Are you a tool developer interested in using this? Here are some details: the database resides on Tool Labs with the name s52475__wpx_p. The table that associates WikiProjects with articles and drafts is called projectindex. Pages are stored by talk page title but in the future this should change. Have fun!

On the horizon
  • The work on the CollaborationKit extension continues. The extension will initially focus on reducing template and Lua bloat on WikiProjects (especially our WPX UI demonstration projects), and will from there create custom interfaces for creating and maintaining WikiProjects.
  • The WikiCite meeting will be in Berlin in May. The goal of the meeting is to figure out how to build a bibliographic database for use on the Wikimedia projects. This fits in quite nicely with WikiProject X's work: we want to make it easier for people to find things to work on, and with a powerful, open bibliographic database, we can build recommendations for sources. This feature was requested by the Wikipedia Library back in September, and this meeting is a major next step. We look forward to seeing what comes out of this meeting.


Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi from Esino[edit]

Hoping to meet up with you today/tomorrow to talk about the WiG logo. I'm at Learning Days all day. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 11:31, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

@Rosiestep: Sure, I'm around the hackathon, and not really going to any sessions that I know of, unless I wind up at a 16:30 one today. Whenever works, really. Since these events are both only for people who signed up/by invitation only, though, it sounds like we'll need to meet somewhere else entirely? I don't even know. What do you think? -— Isarra 12:05, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
I'll probably be at the central plaza before and/or after dinner. No worries if that doesn't work for you. There's always tomorrow. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Where is that? Is that where the registration is? Also I'm guessing from the fact that you renamed the section you noticed there be some bugs around duplicate section names... good thinking, though I'm also glad that happened in the first place, since it gave me the opportunity to file and complain about it. -— Isarra 13:47, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Yes (registration area). Yes; buggy to have same header name; didn't know it's something one could complain about but thanks for doing so. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:02, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
You can complain about anything! Just need to find the right place, or someone who knows the right place. Which admittedly is a bit much to expect of the average editor. -— Isarra 14:10, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Colorado Wiknic rescheduled to August 7[edit]

See details at Wikipedia:Meetup/Colorado/Wiknic/2016, the June date has been postponed.--Pharos (talk) 07:53, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 9[edit]

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Newsletter • May / June 2016

Check out this month's issue of the WikiProject X newsletter, featuring the first screenshot of our new CollaborationKit software!

Harej (talk) 00:23, 25 June 2016 (UTC)