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Here's the fookin' archive for fookin' April and May 2007, moother fooker.

Re: 2012 Summer Olympics bids[edit]

Please, don't apologize! It's me that has to thank you for your availability! We would all like to have "lists" like that, it means editors care about our job and what being done on that article ;) I really appreciate the time and the thorough copy-editing you made so far. As we speak, I'm trying to answer to all the suggestions you made, so I hope that tomorrow (it's 5:00 am here) I might have all (or most) of them addressed. Writing English isn't that hard for me because I've grown hearing this language, since a young kid, and I'm used to write on foreign web forums and reading college books and scientific articles in English ;) I actually like doing it, even though I don't have the ease and "perfection" of a native speaker.

Once again, thank you very much, JHMM13! Parutakupiu talk || contribs 04:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I'll follow your advice... and leave the copy-editing for the native speakers ;) But there are some things you mistakenly copy-edited that aren't errors and I'll have to fix. I'm repeating myself but thank you for your help. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 15:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, JHMM13. Please, don't apollogize for having a life! :D The fact that you've been the only user providing comments for my FAC is not your fault, lol. Offended?! If I was a native English speaker, then you'd be in trouble >:( (kidding!) Yes, erasing factual text is a normal thing to happen when one is on a copy-editing spree :) Don't worry, I'll be always double-checking your appreciated copyedits ;) Thanks! Parutakupiu talk || contribs 02:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
LOL!!! You got me scared there for a while! :D I knew some "supposed" copy-edits looked like previous versions of the article to me. Pfeeww! Please, don't do that again :P Parutakupiu talk || contribs 04:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
PS: I think your bottom-infobox idea is great! Very good for navigation purposes ;) Parutakupiu talk || contribs 04:38, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to bed now (6:20 am) so I'll see you work tomorrow, ok? See you! Parutakupiu talk || contribs 05:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, JHMM13! Would it be a bother for you to have a look at the recent additions I've made to the Controversies section? I tried my best to use a "compelling, professional writing" in order to try to satisfy a bit Tony's demands, but I'm far away from reaching his desired standards of prose, so it would be nice from you to also copy-edit those two new subsections :)
Since, for now, the prose is the main objection to promotion I might put forward a request at the League of Copyeditors. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 03:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hey! What can I do but thank you... again! :D You've been a great help and always nice towards the nominators. I hope you can get your article featured, you deserve it! Parutakupiu talk || contribs 21:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, JHMM13. I've been trying to spruce up a little more the article but since we all know what's my flaw, would you mind taking a look at it again? Sorry I'm really being annoying but almost nobody answers my copyedit requests and those who do don't make an extended review. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 16:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NRHP[edit]

Could you take a look at History of the National Register of Historic Places, another user told me it was difficult to read due to being too bureaucratic but didn't elaborate, any help would be appreciated. IvoShandor 14:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still working on your suggestions for the NRHP article. Have incorporated several, I have requested that another user who didn't write so much of the article take a shot at the lead rewrite. Would you mind taking a look at my peer review comments and what I have changed thus far? Thanks. Once this is all done I am hoping you can take a look at again too.
How good a chance will this thing have at FA once all is said and done, in your opinion? Thanks for all the help so far.

IvoShandor 07:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I made some adjustments and some comments on the peer review page. If you have time and could check things out and/or comment on the changes made (those I marked as done or kinda done and commented on) I would greatly appreciate it. No rush. Thanks again. IvoShandor 09:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically the lead adjustments...IvoShandor 09:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mixing footnotes and references[edit]

Some of the interesting recent discussion I mentioned in the peer review for Domenico Selvo can be found at Wikipedia talk:Footnotes. Cheers, Askari Mark (Talk) 20:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar[edit]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar

For your generous, unbiased and committed work on helping to improve the prose style of 2012 Summer Olympics bids, considering how real life consumes a lot of your spare time, I hereby award you with the Copyeditor's Barnstar.
Keep up this way! Parutakupiu talk || contribs 14:49, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know[edit]

) --PaxEquilibrium 12:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

For stepping in and diffusing that situation. As a newer editor, I still have to learn about dealing with difficult editors. Burgz33 has been blocked for 6 months for personal attacks, sockpuppeteering and vandalism, and since then has simply carried on his edit warring/abuse/attacks through various IP address. He's earned the attention of a number of admins. I have tried working with him - see Talk:Enforcer (hockey) and User talk:`.Thirty Thr33, but instead of compromise, myself, Yankees and Cambridgebayweather are met with insults and edit warring. And even as I type, he's vandalizing pages. Quartet 15:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What the hell have I vandalized recently? I vandalized the infamous trio's user pages because of what you've done to my edits, but I've never vandalized an articles page, ever. 69.150.84.232 19:57, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia - this includes abuse of tags, removing all or significant parts of pages, or replacing entire established pages with one's own version without first gaining consensus, and adding insults, profanity, etc. to user pages or user talk pages. Thanks. Quartet 22:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please add proper CSD tags to images, "inadequate sourcing" is not a CSD criterium. Thanks, feydey 10:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations[edit]

Domenico Selvo = FA — You did it! Great work... and deserved! Parutakupiu talk || contribs 03:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Original Barnstar
Congratulations on the FA status bestowed on Domenico Selvo. Terrific work - I sincerely applaud this effort. Mangojuicetalk 03:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Err... Your reply on my talk page gave me the impression you didn't understand what I meant: the article WAS promoted! :D See here.
PS: Posted too late, lol. That barnstar says everything ;) Parutakupiu talk || contribs 03:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Greeeeaaaat job! Front page next? Mmounties (Talk) 22:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. National Championships[edit]

Perhaps, they can be changed to U.S. National Championships (tennis) if it ever becomes an issue. There's a somewhat mixed precedent for this kind of thing on Wikipedia, e.g. US Open vs. French Open and Australian Open. --dantheox 06:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Dogpatch/Monte Ne[edit]

Thanks so much for looking at Monte Ne and Dogpatch! I have put a lot of time into those articles and appreciate any input. I really want them both to be perfect, but I am very confused with the inline citation policy of WP. I have read all of the pages I can find on how to do this and am still very confused. If you are very familiar with how to do citations, I have some specific questions I'd like to ask you. If not, I'll look for help elsewhere. Thanks so much again! --The_stuart 13:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help. One of my problems is how do I cite various bits of information from the same webpage in different places in the article when the webpage doesn't have an author or page numbers? Same thing, when I'm using a PDF version of a journal. --The_stuart 14:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You can use the <ref> tagging system, which allows you to reference several inline citations across the article which come from the same source (webpage or journal). You can learn more about it at WP:FOOT. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 17:08, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On Art Stubs[edit]

Thanks. Will add stubs. One of my concerns is that for some of these, there will be little more information to add since what is known about the individuals is slim.70.226.236.227 12:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bongo (antelope)[edit]

Hello there. Based on your objections to the Bongo (antelope) page I have done a lot more work since I last talked to you. Please can I ask you to check it out and give me your comments. Thanks so much. Black Stripe 17:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry for the warning. Vandalfight missteps occur every now and then. :-) Regards, Húsönd 01:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Message regarding blanking User talk page[edit]

Thank you for the heads up, but the reason I keep blanking my Usertalk page is due to misguided warnings from a well-meaning bot. It keeps telling me to sign my edits to User talk pages, when in reality, I'm reverting vandalism to someone else's page. --76.202.59.116 02:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have a user account. When I do vandalism clean up, I normally don't log on. I figure if they're going to vandalize my userpage in retaliation, it might as well be an IP user page. --76.202.59.116 02:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CHIC to Chic?[edit]

Hi JHMM13.

I'm having a dispute with the user Cyrus XIII regarding the spelling of the band CHIC. As you were the one who changed (at my urging) the spelling from "Chic (band)" to (in my view the correct way) "CHIC (band)" I was wondering if you can help me in dealing with this issue with Cyrus XIII.

Cyrus wrote this on my talk page:

"Have you read the guidelines (Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) & Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters)#All caps) I gave in my edit summaries regarding the edits you are referring to? Comparisons with ABBA and MCI are invalid, as these are acronyms, which are fully capitalized in standard English. Please refrain from engaging in an edit war over this. The guidelines are clear there are numerous precedents for band names which have been subjected to them (i.e. Kiss and Matchbox Twenty) and - forgive me for pointing that out - your username does suggest a certain bias towards the subject at hand, which might lead to WP:NPOV related concerns."

I dont know if he has the unilateral right to interpret the rules regarding names and I therefore are engaging in a pointless effort? But as long as this is unclear I would like some assistance regarding this matter.

Pocat-chictribute.com 12:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Page removal[edit]

JHMM13 - The reason I removed the content of this article, is because it pertains to me and the information contained therein is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.17.187 (talkcontribs)

newpage[edit]

thanks for your patience. this is a well-known author. I had just read his latest after having it referred to me by a student up at Harvard who'd gotten at the library there. I see your in Wake Forest. Nice. I am in Raleigh, just outside Cary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amercenier (talkcontribs)

Conatus FAC[edit]

Hello. Lacostias changed over the references from Harvard style recently due to overwhelming opposition to it. Is there any reason why you won't now support? -- Rmrfstar 23:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the support. And that painting is (obviously) one of my favourites too! I think the full title is The Fighting Téméraire tugged to her last Berth to be broken, though. -- Rmrfstar 23:40, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oohh, that one's nice! I don't think I've seen that one before... -- Rmrfstar 23:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Francium FAC[edit]

Greetings! I recently put Francium up for FAC, and you provided the first comment: Remove weasel phrases. I just wanted to let you know that the article has undergone some fixing up since you commented, including a stamping out of the weaselry, and I invite you to reevaluate it for the FAC. But if you don't particularly care about the article anymore, that's fine too. :) --Cryptic C62 · Talk 10:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Marty[edit]

Thanks! It took a lot of effort but it was all worth it. Maybe Scott Stevens next? And wow, all the way from North Carolina, that's pretty sweet. Hope they can turn this series around, not lookin too good unfortunately. I am worried. Sportskido8 23:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work. If I knew any other languages fluently then I would do that too, but unfortunately I don't. Sportskido8 01:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes[edit]

Hello again. A quick question. I want to use a pull out quote, via the template you showed me, in Rock Springs Massacre, I was curious, for FAC is it necessary the quote be used in the section of the article it is pulled from? What would folks think over there? IvoShandor 06:09, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article has come quite a long way since the original nomination, would you mind taking another look? Noclip 17:41, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Ice Hockey Project discussion of hockey player notability and project scope[edit]

Please come join the WikiProject Ice Hockey Notability standards for hockey players discussion. I'd like to see input from all our project members who have an opinion. Thanks! ColtsScore 01:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your message[edit]

Usually, I wouldn't have used the tag I did, but this user has made about 20 or so POV edits today to the one article and it's a one-purpose account. [1] (contributions link) I'm surprised it hasn't got the full gamut of warnings before me. J0lt C0la 19:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page in April. I wouldn't have even noticed accept I checked the edit history to see if it had been vandalized while I wasn't very active on here. And thanks again for changing the "six" to "seven" for me. lol. Bsroiaadn 04:14, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: List of Florida hurricanes[edit]

Thanks for the compliment and howdy. I'm not sure what you're referring to on the List of Florida hurricanes page (regarding Katrina). That page is for Florida hurricanes only; thus Katrina's impact elsewhere isn't exactly relevant. I hope that clears things up. Yea, I'm ready for the season, though I hope Mother Nature is easy on us. I would love a nice, active season, provided no storms are costly or deadly. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:54, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey[edit]

I requested protection for the msnbc.com page, hopefully it'll pass. --Whsitchy 15:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hah, if it doesn't pass, we can get him on 3RR I think --Whsitchy 15:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Full protection granted. =D --Whsitchy 16:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BITE[edit]

Please do not WP:BITE newcomers like I think you did here. MECUtalk 18:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I still disagree. I fail to see a single welcome or please in the message. Your own userpage states "Welcome newbies on their talk pages and encourage them all to ask me questions." under "What I do for Wikipedia" which is a great task to do, but I fail to see any of that have occurred. MOS violations are not a valid reason for reverting. You should have fixed them and explained why (something like "I've edited your contributions because they aren't in line with our WP:MOS."). The screen saver link could have just been removed with again, a explanation and reason ("We consider this stuff SPAM, please see WP:SPAM for our policy on external links."). Lastly, your reverting multiple times with little communication regarding the matter (one edit to the user on their talk page, nothing in either article's talk page) with then a warn for 3RR seems like baiting. You put forth more effort communicating to me and with the RFPP (that I also disagree with and have asked the admin to undo) than you did trying to discuss/correct the problems with this new user. That is BITE.
I do think you have done lots of good things for Wikipedia. I understand how this could have happened and that no one is perfect. I'm just trying to say that maybe you could have done things better in this case and hoping to remind you that sometimes we do things and perhaps jump to conclusions that aren't always the case. I would think that having talked more and reverted less would have been a much better approach in this case. Especially then when you're reverting enough to get a 3RR block with little communication. I'm guilty of all this at times as well, but striving for perfection is all we can achieve. MECUtalk 19:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with your interpretation of my comments left at the admin's talk page. I was trying to say that an "experienced" user (such as you and I) should not have just reverted with little communication. I still disagree that the note you left was polite. It was, in my opinion, the basic level of communication that could have been achieved where I think more should have been done. It was no where near a judgment on your edit war handling experience. MECUtalk 19:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct, that you said please 3 times and I missed it. Yes, the user didn't talk/respond to your message and I conceded above you were the only one to communicate. Further effort to communicate would have been better I think. I don't really have much else to say, as I we're not going to come to any agreement on the situation. I also think mistakes and assumptions were made all around and acknowledging them and learning from them and moving on without dwelling on them may be the best course of action. I hold no animosity towards you or the situation. Thank you for discussing in a calm matter. MECUtalk 19:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I've taken ALL you've said on the discussion page very seriously and have changed eveything you pointed out over the period of months. Please check it out, it's like a new article! Is this OK for a FAC? Yours very sincerely, Black Stripe 11:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]