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Edit Summaries

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Please use edit summaries to say what you are doing in an edit, they help other editors understand. See WP:ES. Regards, AriDemo (talk) 03:01, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Large Castle Dynamo 4.jpg missing description details

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Dear uploader: The media file you uploaded as:

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If you have any questions, please see Help:Image page. Thank you. Theo's Little Bot (error?) 04:51, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This image can also be seen in the 1893 'Electrical Review Volume 32' page 625. Its authorship is unknown, and under the UK Copyright Act of 1988 would therefore remain in force for 70 years from the date of publication, i.e. until the end of 1963. I hope this clarifies your enquiry. Thank you.

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April 2013

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Thank you for your contributions. Please remember to mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Israel, as "minor" only if they truly are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:41, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please make sure to include an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, as the summaries are quite helpful to people browsing an article's history. Thanks! — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:41, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on File:Large Castle Dynamo 4.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:52, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sfan00 I'm not sure why you deleted the image of the Large Castle Dynamo. It is: a) valid image of one of J.H. Holmes & Co's products b) long out of copyright c) was from my family's company (J. H. Holmes & Co), where my great-grandfather (Theodore Holmes) and great-great-uncle (John Henry Holmes) were Directors.

Please reinstate this image. Thank you.

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This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

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You have shown interest in pseudoscience and fringe science. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

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Hello Tgeorgescu,
Thank you for your message.
I was a little surprised to receive your message as I had just made a few minor edits to this page which is of interest to me on Rolfing. I have been under the impression that Wikpedia was a neutral space, and is not driven by particular interests. However I was unsettled to see someone delete my few changes so rapidly, including a reference to the work of the well respected Harvard physician Bessel van der Kolk which is relevant to Rolfing. This was all removed with no good reason, and this highly rapid deletion of my few edits made me wonder who was behind doing this. McSly wrote: "non neutral, incorrect changes" - which has no basis and is untruthful.
Request No. 1: When I make relevant edits like this, will you kindly investigate and take action against McSly who was essentially vandalising them on an unscientiic basis. Thank you.
The current Wikipedia page for Rolfing struck me as having been written in quite a biased manner, seeking to discredit Rolfing to a high degree, rather than to simply inform people about the basis for Rolfing, and what it does. As another example, I noticed at its Wikipedia page that Ida Rolf has a PhD, and I included this at the Rolfing Wikipedia page. During the time I have bben typing this message to you, a user called Roxy the dog has also deleted this edit! This shows obvious bias and vandalism. It is a fact that Ida Rolf had a PhD, so why would somebody remove it, except as an act of vandalism? It seems there are particular interests at work here trying to ensure that Rolfing is put in a bad light.
Request No. 2: will you kindly take action against user Roxy the dog for vandalism of this page.
I am a genuine private Wikpedia user, who simply wishes to add some useful information and balance the Rolfing page more. Users like McSly and Roxy the dog (are they even different people?) seem to have a vested interest in biasing the page to his or her own agenda, and is vandalising the page in doing so.
Thank you and please let me know if and when you have been able to take action against these users for vandalism.
John R Chamberlain JRBC1 JRBC1 (talk) 11:24, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You've been here a while, so you should be already aware that accusing editors of being sock-puppets - even obliquely "(are they even different people?)" - is a serious matter, and unless you have some evidence of the case, it would be wise to strike that comment and reconsider. Two people disagreeing with your edits is not evidence of sock-puppetry. With regard to the inclusion of PhD - see MOS:PHD. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relocated from my userpage

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Hi Chaheel I saw your message, which I found for some reason diverting away from the main issue of other users deleting my quite small and valid edits.

For some reason your message stopped when you started to talk about a deletion of my inclusion of Ida Rolf having a PhD.

Please complete your train of thought about this.

I am not a regular user of wikipedia so I find your comment about "you've been here for a while" an unjust reflection and not relevant to the deletions.

You also did not address the fact that the deleters quite improperly said that my edits were incorrect or innacurate when they were fully accurate - so they were indeed innacurate and vandalising.

Please kindly keep in mind and address the main points of my concern (as opposed to finding something against me), bearing in mind it was my edits which got deleted and not the other way around.

Thank you

Firstly, as per my edit summary - please continue discussion where started, rather than on my userpage. I have no real interest in engaging in WP:FRINGE, which is why I limited my involvement to your behaviour. You first registered here on Wiki back in 2010, and although you've only got 250+ edits, that's still long enough to be aware of basic rules and etiquette here on the project - and that includes making accusations of sock-puppetry, something I personally take seriously. You made an oblique accusation that two editors are one and the same - either back it up, or back down. That has nothing to do with the content of your edits, and is purely behavioural.
As for the PhD issue - have you read the link? It explains all. Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:33, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Chaheel Riens Your comment about "You've been here for a while" I experience as presumptuous and patronising. I am not immersed in Wikipedia and use it occasionally as I'm sure you can check on my usage history.

I wrote regarding my factual edits being vandalised which you unfortunately did not address.

Please would you kindly address these and let me know these have been addressed.

I do not see a way to edit my post above as you have requested. Please advise how to do this.

Thank you.

Thank you. JRBC1 (talk) 13:27, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chaheel Riens 3rd request - please kindly address the issue of vandalism to my factually correct edits on the Rolfing page

2nd request - please advise how to edit previous entry on Talk page as I see no button

Please do not "presume" an obligation of knowledge or skill onto another. That is abusive and patronising.

Thank you

JRBC1 (talk) 13:48, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Words

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From the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles:

"Allopathy is potentially confusing to readers in different cultures, as it could refer to traditional enantiopathic preparations or to mainstream modern medicine, depending on context. Avoid using allopathic to describe modern Western medicine; instead use conventional medicine or mainstream medicine. Not all mainstream medicine is actually evidence-based medicine, and not all alternative medicine is traditional medicine. See Wikipedia:Alternative medicine for help with terminology." WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:41, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Allopathic medicine is a well understood term by many people. However, to ensure no clarity and no confusion I have added the words (western conventional) in a couple of places after allopathic. As we know, Wikipedia has a global readership, and the use of terms such as 'conventional' should not be seen either as western-dominated or ambiguous to readers in, say, India and China, home of about 2.6bn people combined, where their regularly practiced or conventional medicine may well be Ayurvedic medicine or Chinese medicine. JRBC1 (talk) 11:02, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ayurvedic medicine and Traditional Chinese Medicine aren't called "conventional" in those countries. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:48, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. We are biased.

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Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, once wrote:[1][2][3][4]

Wikipedia's policies ... are exactly spot-on and correct. If you can get your work published in respectable scientific journals – that is to say, if you can produce evidence through replicable scientific experiments, then Wikipedia will cover it appropriately.

What we won't do is pretend that the work of lunatic charlatans is the equivalent of "true scientific discourse". It isn't.

So yes, we are biased.

And we are not going to change. tgeorgescu (talk) 14:59, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Farley, Tim (25 March 2014). "Wikipedia founder responds to pro-alt-med petition; skeptics cheer". Skeptical Software Tools. Archived from the original on 19 October 2021. Retrieved 4 November 2021.
  2. ^ Hay Newman, Lily (27 March 2014). "Jimmy Wales Gets Real, and Sassy, About Wikipedia's Holistic Healing Coverage". Slate. Archived from the original on 28 March 2014. Retrieved 4 November 2021.
  3. ^ Gorski, David (24 March 2014). "An excellent response to complaints about medical topics on Wikipedia". ScienceBlogs. Archived from the original on 19 October 2021. Retrieved 4 November 2021.
  4. ^ Novella, Steven (25 March 2014). "Standards of Evidence – Wikipedia Edition". NeuroLogica Blog. Archived from the original on 20 October 2021. Retrieved 4 November 2021.
  5. ^ Talk:Astrology/Archive 13#Bias against astrology
  6. ^ Talk:Alchemy/Archive 2#naturalistic bias in article
  7. ^ Talk:Numerology/Archive 1#There's more work to be done
  8. ^ Talk:Homeopathy/Archive 60#Wikipedia Bias
  9. ^ Talk:Acupuncture/Archive 13#Strong Bias towards Skeptic Researchers
  10. ^ Talk:Energy (esotericism)/Archive 1#Bias
  11. ^ Talk:Conspiracy theory/Archive 12#Sequence of sections and bias
  12. ^ Talk:Vaccine hesitancy/Archive 5#Clearly a bias attack article
  13. ^ Talk:Magnet therapy/Archive 1#Contradiction and bias
  14. ^ Talk:Crop circle/Archive 9#Bower and Chorley Bias Destroyed by Mathematician
  15. ^ Talk:Laundry ball/Archives/2017
  16. ^ Talk:Ayurveda/Archive 15#Suggestion to Shed Biases
  17. ^ Talk:Torsion field (pseudoscience)/Archive 1#stop f**** supressing science with your bias bull****
  18. ^ Talk:Young Earth creationism/Archive 3#Biased Article (part 2)
  19. ^ Talk:Holocaust denial/Archive 12#Blatant bias on this page
  20. ^ Talk:Flat Earth/Archive 7#Disinformation, the EARTH IS FLAT and this can be SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN. This article is not about Flat Earth, it promotes a round earth.
  21. ^ Talk:Scientific racism/Archive 1#THIS is propaganda
  22. ^ Talk:Global warming conspiracy theory/Archive 3#Problems with the article
  23. ^ Talk:Santa Claus/Archive 11#About Santa Claus
  24. ^ Talk:Flood geology/Archive 4#Obvious bias
  25. ^ Talk:Quackery/Archive 1#POV #2
  26. ^ Talk:Ancient astronauts/Archive 4#Pseudoscience

Page-blocked

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Since you have been persistently making tendentious edits to Rolfing, such as changing "established medical knowledge" to "allopathic medical knowledge" (not to mention this nonsense), I have blocked you from editing that page. Note that you can still edit the article's talkpage, as well as the rest of Wikipedia. You can request unblock from an uninvolved administrator by placing {{unblock|your reason here}} on this page. Bishonen | tålk 15:18, 23 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

No personal attacks, please

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Also, you need to immediately stop falsely accusing other editors of vandalism. It's considered a personal attack. Please read Wikipedia:Vandalism to see how the word is defined here. Bishonen | tålk 15:25, 23 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

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