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Rough draft, work in process, formatting errors, for discussion only

Robert A. Heinlein bibliography
Title First publication * Original byline (if not Robert A. Heinlein), alternate titles, awards, notes
"Life-Line" August 1939 F For book publication in 1949, the story date was revised from 1939 to 1951.
"Misfit" November 1939 F Revised for book version, 1953.
"Requiem" January 1940 F
""If This Goes On—"" January 1940 F Revised for book publication, 1953
"Let There Be Light" May 1940 F Lyle Monroe. Revised for book versions in 1950 and 1963.
"The Roads Must Roll" June 1940 F
"Coventry" July 1940 F
"Successful Operation" Summer 1940 Lyle Monroe, as "Heil!"
"Blowups Happen" September 1940 F
"Magic, Inc." September 1940 Anson MacDonald, as "The Devil Makes the Law"
Sixth Column January-March, 1941 Published in book form, 1949. Also published as The Day After Tomorrow
""—And He Built a Crooked House—"" February 1941 F
"Logic of Empire" March 1941 F
"Beyond Doubt" April 1941 Lyle Monroe and Elma Wentz
"They" April 1941
"Universe" May 1941 F
"Solution Unsatisfactory" May 1941 Anson MacDonald
""—We Also Walk Dogs"" July 1941 F Anson MacDonald
"Methuselah's Children" July- September 1941 F Expanded to novel length, 1958)
"Elsewhen" September 1941 Caleb Saunders, as "Elsewhere"
"By His Bootstraps" October 1941 Anson MacDonald
"Common Sense" October 1941 F
"Lost Legacy" November 1941 Lyle Monroe, as "Lost Legion"
""My Object All Sublime"" February 1942
"Goldfish Bowl" March 1942 Anson MacDonald
"Pied Piper" March 1942 Lyle Monroe
Beyond This Horizon April, May 1942 Anson MacDonald. Revised for book publication, 1948.
"Waldo" August 1942 Anson MacDonald
"The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag" October 1942 John Riverside
"The Green Hills of Earth" February 1947 F
"Space Jockey" April 1947 F
"Columbus Was a Dope" May 1947 f Lyle Monroe
"They Do It with Mirrors (Heinlein)" May 1947 Simon York
""It's Great to Be Back!"" July 1947 F
"Jerry Was a Man" October 1947 Originally published as "Jerry Is a Man"
"Water Is for Washing" November 1947
Rocket Ship Galileo 1947 J
"The Black Pits of Luna" January 1948 F
"Gentlemen, Be Seated!" May 1948 F
"Ordeal in Space" May 1948 F
Space Cadet 1948 J
"Our Fair City" January 1949
"Nothing Ever Happens on the Moon" April, May 1949 f While not officially part of the Future History, Heinlein says in Expanded Universe: 'This story is compatible with the so-called "Future History" stories.'
"Poor Daddy" August 1949 R. A. Heinlein
"Gulf" November, December 1949
"Delilah and the Space Rigger" December 1949 F
"The Long Watch" December 1949 F
Red Planet 1949 J
Shooting Destination Moon July 1950 N
"Cliff and the Calories" August 1950 R. A. Heinlein
Farmer in the Sky August-November 1950 J Serialized as "Satellite Scout". Retro Hugo Award, 1951
"The Man Who Sold the Moon" 1950 F Retro Hugo Award, 1951
"Destination Moon" September 1950
Between Planets September, October 1951 J Serialized as "Planets in Combat"
The Puppet Masters September- November 1951 J Original uncut version published 1990
Tomorrow, the Stars (foreword only) 1952 N While Heinlein's name appears on the cover as the editor, he only wrote the foreword; the collection was actually edited by Frederick Pohl and Judith Merril.
"The Year of the Jackpot" March 1952
The Rolling Stones September-December 1952 J Serialized as "Tramp Space Ship". Published in the U.K. as "Space Family Stone".
"Ray Guns and Rocket Ships" November 1952 N
"This I Believe (Heinlein)" December 1, 1952 N [1]. Reprinted in Requiem and Grumbles from the Grave.
"Project Nightmare" April 1953
"Sky Lift" November 1953
Starman Jones 1953 J
The Star Beast May-July 1954 J Serialized as "Star Lummox"
Tunnel in the Sky 1955 J
Double Star February-April 1956 Hugo Award, 1956
Time for the Stars 1956 J
The Door into Summer October-December 1956 J
"The Menace From Earth" August 1957
Citizen of the Galaxy September-December 1957 J
"The Man Who Traveled in Elephants" October 1957 Serialized as "The Elephant Circuit"
"Who Are the Heirs of Patrick Henry?" April 1958 N
"Tenderfoot in Space" May-July 1958
Have Space Suit—Will Travel August-October 1958 J
""All You Zombies—"" March 1959
Starship Troopers October-November 1959 Written as a juvenile, but rejected by Scribner's. Hugo Award, 1960
"Pravda Means Truth" October 1960 N
Stranger in a Strange Land 1961 (Hugo Award, 1962), republished at the original greater length in 1991
"Searchlight" August 1962 F
Podkayne of Mars November 1962-March 1963 j
Glory Road July-September 1963
Farnham's Freehold July-October 1964
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress December 1965-April 1966 (Hugo Award, 1967)
"Free Men" 1966 Originally written in 1946.
I Will Fear No Evil July-December 1970
Time Enough for Love 1973
"The Pragmatics of Patriotism" April 1973 N Speech at Annapolis; the published version is only a portion of the speech
No Bands Playing, No Flags Flying December 1973
"Paul Dirac, Antimatter, and You" 1975 N Encyclopædia Britannica
"Are You a Rare Blood?" 1976 N Encyclopædia Britannica
"Larger Than Life" 1979 N A Memoir in Tribute to Dr. Edward E. Smith
"Spinoff" 1979 N
The Number of the Beast 1980
"The Last Days of the United States" 1980 N Written 1946
"How to Be a Survivor" 1980 N Written 1946
"Pie from the Sky" 1980 N
"No Bands Playing, No Flags Flying" 1980
"A Bathroom of Her Own" 1980 Written 1946
"On the Slopes of Vesuvius" 1980 Written 1947
"Where To?" (Pandora's Box, 1950, 1965, 1980) 1980 N Originally written 1952; revised 1966, 1980
"The Third Millennium Opens" 1980 N
"Inside Intourist" 1980 N Written 1960
"The Happy Days Ahead" 1980 N Combination commentary with an embedded story intended to complement the commentary.
Friday 1982
Job: A Comedy of Justice 1984
The Cat Who Walks Through Walls 1985
To Sail Beyond the Sunset 1987
"Dance Session" 1988 Written 1946.
"The Witch's Daughters" 1988 Written 1946.
The Bulletin Board 1992
Grumbles from the Grave 1989 Posthumous collection
Take Back Your Government: A Practical Handbook for the Private Citizen 1992 Written as "How To Be a Politician", April 1946
Tramp Royale 1992
For Us, The Living: A Comedy of Customs 2003 Written circa 1938
Variable Star 2004 posthumously with Spider Robinson from 1955 notes

Notes

F = Future History

f = Compatible with Future History, not officially canonical.

J = Juvenile (includes all of the Scribner's juveniles)

j = Juvenile (subject to interpretation)

N = Non-fiction

Discussion

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Since the "Discussion" tab just directs to this same page, we'll discuss here.

I salute the motivation and the aggregation of the information. As I said elsewhere, table formats are ugly. Additionally, they are notoriously difficult and tedious to edit, and very easy for novice editors to mess up. Further, it is a mistake to duplicate information in two places because they easily get out of sync, especially in collaborative editing. I strongly recommend against a table format. I think the basic sectioning of the Bibliography as it stand is good, though a few tweaks and improvements could be made, notably integrating some of the notes you include above. I would leave it basically as is, but add a timeline as in the section I've added below. Hu 07:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in total agreement, for both of the reasons you mention plus one more. Putting the table together wasn't too bad initially; I formatted it in Microsoft Word, then exported it to HTML (and yesterday I reformatted it using Wiki table format). That part was manageable. But then I had to fix details, like hyphens to mdashes, and some missing dates, etc. And finding a single entry to fix in that massive table became a major pain. So that's the first point: it's impossible to edit. And as you said, it's ugly as sin. And finally, after I put it all together and tried to print the page for review, it turns out that it doesn't paginate, so you get a single page and the remainder is lost, just as if it was an image. So...the exercise was extremely worthwhile because it forced me to review Heinlein's complete body of work. The table itself is a complete disaster. Your format is far superior in every way -- it's cleaner, it's editable (critical on a wiki), and it's printable. You did an excellent job putting this into a useful format!
Would there be any value in also presenting this as an alphabetical list? I'm leaning towards no, based on (1) duplication (keeping two lists in synch on a Wiki is problematical), (2) (it would double the page size (assuming it's on the same page), and (3) I'm not entirely sure that it's a useful presentation. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 13:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Alternate Structure for the Timeline

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This is the chronological order of publication, with the exception of the 1938 first novel which was published essentially unaltered poshumously.

By keeping entries short and sweet, we avoid duplication of editing effort and we end up with a clean uncluttered list. I would not have done this without your inspiration! Hu 07:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]