User talk:Lets.Custodio

Thank you for your contribution to the article on Dulche de leche.

Thank you for fixing the article's part on varyonaya sgushchyonka-like condiment. Thank you for bringing up a comprehencive, well-detailed guide on how to make milk jam out of condensed milk without having to grab tins, let alone boil those tins. 2A00:1FA0:8C0:CC88:0:D:2DDA:7701 (talk) 08:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome. I saw that these ways of preparation were not on the page and I decided to update it. Lets.Custodio (talk) 17:05, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Paid templates

Letting you know that I've fixed your user page, which was using a broken form of the wrong paid user template.

Is it correct that you're saying that all of your paid edits to articles like macaroni and cheese, forensic dentistry and Brazil women's national volleyball team were requested and funded by the same individual, Dylan Bodkin, who does not represent any particular company? Belbury (talk) 07:56, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello Belbury.

Thank you so much for your help and correction.

I had seen that model in a wikipedia guide, but I was very confused on how to use it.

Really, yours is much better and I really appreciate you correcting it. I will continue using your template.

Related to the employer, yes, the person asked that they be informed as both employer and client, thus not representing any company.

More one time, thank you.

Leticia. Lets.Custodio (talk) 12:57, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

You must follow the guidance at WP:PE if you are being paid to edit.

You should not be creating articles like Granite Bay Hilltop Seventh-day Adventist Church directly because someone has paid you to do so. You should follow the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process and say on the draft's talk page that you were paid to write the article. Belbury (talk) 12:11, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello User:Belbury

Even if the employer has no relationship with the created page and has no interest/conflict of interest in the content that was written? Lets.Custodio (talk) 13:48, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes. If the only reason you are editing an article is because somebody gave you some money and told you to do it, you need to be clear about that. Belbury (talk) 14:02, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Right. As I'm starting, I didn't know that the page needed to be created in another way.

But as for the employer, he left me free to choose which articles to edit (he didn't directly tell me to do this or that on this or that page). Lets.Custodio (talk) 14:12, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

That sounds like a strange arrangement and I'm not sure why somebody would pay for that (is Bodkin asking you to write in a certain way, or to test an editing interface, or to add ChatGPT content to articles to see if it gets detected?), but ultimately if you are only making Wikipedia edits because you expect to be paid for them, whatever you write and on whatever target article, that still falls under Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Belbury (talk) 14:32, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

No. Not is the case.

But, I will remove the information (from my profile) that that contribution was paid and I will deliver another contribution to the client.

Thank you for your information. Lets.Custodio (talk) 15:25, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Belbury, I would like to know if you know answer my question: if I update my profile (adding a picture and a professional bio), I would be violating some wikipedia policy (mainly the one that says that a person cannot write about themselves on wikipedia)? Lets.Custodio (talk) 13:11, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Your current user page with a picture and bio seems fine. WP:USERPAGE has more information about Wikipedia user pages. Belbury (talk) 12:12, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Lets.Custodio (talk) 13:49, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Granite Bay Hilltop Seventh-day Adventist Church

Hello, Lets.Custodio, and welcome to Wikipedia. I edit here too, under the username BoyTheKingCanDance, and I thank you for your contributions.

I wanted to let you know, however, that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Granite Bay Hilltop Seventh-day Adventist Church, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Granite Bay Hilltop Seventh-day Adventist Church.

You might like to note that such discussions usually run for seven days and are not votes. And, our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

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BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 05:20, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello @BoyTheKingCanDance:

I saw your considerations and corrected point 3.

As for the page being deleted as not sure it was suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia in its current form, the page has been shortened (by another user) and I believe it may now be fine for wikipedia.

Please let me know what do you think about this?

Leticia. Lets.Custodio (talk) 13:38, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Using ChatGPT to write text and provide verification

In this edit you appear to be citing ChatGPT as a source, in an edit that you say you were paid to make by Dylan Bodkin:

The Italian-American community plays a significant role in world cuisine, giving an American twist to traditional Italian recipes.<ref>OpenAI. (2021). "Is fried chicken a traditional Italian dish?" [ChatGPT response]. Retrieved June 6, 2023, from <nowiki>https://www.openai.com.</ref></nowiki>

In this earlier edit you add details about the special effects of a film citing the reference OpenAI. (2023). "T-34: A Visual Spectacle that Immerses Audiences in the Chaos of War." [ChatGPT-generated response]. Retrieved June 4, 2023, from OpenAI platform. - are the three unsourced sections below (The practical effects, such as explosions and stunts, are skillfully choreographed and executed, creating a tangible and visceral experience...) written by ChatGPT?

Wikipedia absolutely cannot use responses from ChatGPT as source of information, and using it to write article text must be disclosed in the edit summary per WP:LLM.

How much have you been using ChatGPT to write article content? Belbury (talk) 12:21, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

I apologize for the error and I will correct it.

I used it only on these two pages to confirm information and ended up not putting the original link. But I'll correct it.

thank you very much for the warning. Lets.Custodio (talk) 13:52, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Your edit today added the sentence Thus, this panini brings the perfect match for lovers of Italian and American cuisine. - is that from ChatGPT, or do you think this is the tone in which Wikipedia articles should be written?

(I have reverted the edit regardless as you are ignoring WP:PE.) Belbury (talk) 15:10, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

I wrote it, not ChatGPT. Lets.Custodio (talk) 15:16, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

You added back the T-34 content which yesterday you sourced from ChatGPT, providing different sources but the same text. I don't know if you wrote that or ChatGPT did, but Wikipedia should not be writing about how a panini is the perfect match for lovers of Italian and American cuisine or a movie has breathtaking action sequences that keep viewers on the edge of their seats. --Belbury (talk) 15:20, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

I removed those parts, is it good now? Lets.Custodio (talk) 15:29, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

breathtaking action sequences that keep viewers on the edge of their seats was an example of an inappropriate sentence fragment to be presented in Wikipedia's voice, it was not the only problem with the text. The whole thing reads like an excited but generic movie review that says very little specific about the film.

Did ChatGPT generate this text? Belbury (talk) 15:32, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

I already said: No. Lets.Custodio (talk) 15:37, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

You said ChatGPT didn't write the panini content. But you added the generic special effects review of T-34 referenced only to OpenAI. (2023). "T-34: A Visual Spectacle that Immerses Audiences in the Chaos of War." [ChatGPT-generated response]. Retrieved June 4, 2023, from OpenAI platform. on June 4.

What did you mean by that reference? Belbury (talk) 15:40, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

As I said in another comment, I used ChatGPT only on these two pages to confirm information and ended up not putting the original links. Today I fixed this error. I wrote the contents and not the ChatGPT. Lets.Custodio (talk) 15:54, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

You wrote four paragraphs of a generic special effects review in your own words based on some web sources, and used ChatGPT for "confirmation" in some way, but forgot to name those sources and only namechecked ChatGPT? The sources you've added don't seem particularly connected to what you've written.

But the text was inappropriate regardless, please don't add it again.

If this is another article that Dylan Bodkin paid you to edit, please also make that declaration on your user page. Belbury (talk) 16:09, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

No, this was not a paid article. Lets.Custodio (talk) 16:45, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Related to the content of T34, I will not repost it, but regarding the content of Panini, I reposted it because I already corrected the references (which are related to the written subject) and removed the sentence that was perhaps inappropriate. Please do not remove it again as I believe the content is now adequate for the reasons I mentioned above. Lets.Custodio (talk) 17:21, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Granite Bay Hilltop Seventh-day Adventist Church for deletion

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Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Belbury (talk) 17:44, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

I posted this on the wrong noticeboard and have now moved it (including your response) to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Lets.Custodio_making_paid/ChatGPT_edits. Belbury (talk) 18:46, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

June 2023

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for apparently using Wikipedia for some kind of experiment involving ChatGPT.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.   -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 19:32, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

As noted in the block summary, I am open to unblocking (and do not object to another admin unblocking) if you can give a proper explanation of what happened here: Why were you hired, what were you told to do, what role was ChatGPT supposed to have in this? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 19:36, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Paid editing is allowed as long as it's disclosed -- you've been good about doing that. That said, your contributions have to also meet our editorial standards. As folks have pointed out, ChatGPT is producing language that doesn't meet our guidelines. More importantly, if you're using ChatGPT, there's no transparent, obvious way for you or us to tell if what you're adding is true or not. So to ensure our editorial integrity, you may have to stay blocked -- do you see our dilemma?

I'm not an admin so I can neither block or unblock you. I'm very annoyed by your employer, Dylan Bodkins. Wikipedia is not a laboratory. This activity is wasting hours of volunteer hours fooling with here and on Commons. See:

• Commons:Administrators noticeboard#User:Lets.Custodio

You're a dentist -- I know you can do better work as an intelligent human than tending Mr. Bodkin's robot!

Best regards, --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 21:11, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Generally okay about disclosing, except that they removed a page they created (the one being nominated for deletion above) from their profile as a paid contribution, claiming I will remove the information (from my profile) that that contribution was paid and I will deliver another contribution to the client. 2600:1700:87D3:3460:3183:BC1D:FFEB:CE57 (talk) 21:24, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello Tazin (User:Tamzin)

1°) I was not hired through LinkedIn.

2°) My employer has nothing to do with this, he never told me to use AI or put AI content to test if wikipedia found it and blocked the content.

3°) As I was starting my contributions, my employer asked me to choose pages to edit, as he would like to see what my writing/creation style was. After that he would tell me what content he would like me to edit.

4°) All my content was written by me. I didn't use ChatGPT to write them.

5°) As I said in a previous comment, I used ChatGPT to confirm information in 2 articles, only 1 of them being paid - the Panini (sandwich) article, in which, unfortunately, I ended up forgetting to add the sources from which I got the information. However, I re-added the same text in the Panini (sandwich) article, because the fonts have already been corrected, (which are related to the written subject). Note that I added the same text because it was written by me and not by ChatGPT (as I said, I had only used it to confirm information). All my texts were written by me, therefore, the statement of the user "Belbury" is only because he guess that the text is not in good tone for wikipedia.

6°) I believe I was blocked by achisms (people guess things without knowing or without being sure about it).

> They guess I'm using AI to write my texts and I'm trying to test if wikipedia finds this: But I didn't. I myself researched the sources and wrote the texts.

> They guess I was hired by a supposed Dylan who trains AI through LinkedIn, but there are several Dylans in the world and I don't know this Dylan from the profile they sent in the comments and I wasn't even hired through LinkedIn.

That is, people guess and that is why they have denounced me, but I am explaining the situation to you in the points above and the assumptions are not correct.

Leticia. Lets.Custodio (talk) 22:15, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Please User:Tamzin read my edits yourself and see if they were written by AI or not.

I searched the content, wrote them, and spent a lot of time making them. I didn't use AI to write them for me. Lets.Custodio (talk) 22:24, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Can you explain why you attempted to evade your block with the account Zebra12789? 2600:1700:87D3:3460:AD81:3108:7B98:E20F (talk) 22:34, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Courcelles (talk) 22:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Zebra12789. If by some chance you’re actually a legitimate user, evading your block to scrub your record isn’t going to get it lifted. Courcelles (talk) 22:08, 16 June 2023 (UTC)