User talk:Lightedbulb

November 2007

Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Linux distribution worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Thank you. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 11:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia articles, such as those you made to Comparison of Linux distributions, even if your ultimate intention is to fix them. Such edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 11:29, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Linux vs GNU/Linux

I've replied to your question on my talk page. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 12:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia

Welcome!

Hello, Lightedbulb, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Technobadger (talk) 13:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 16:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

January 2008

With regard to your comments on Talk:Linux: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Prolog (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok.I've taken note.

Lightedbulb (talk) 13:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Modern day comment on Talk:gNewSense

Hi. You are correct about "GNU/Linux" being a fine name for systems based on GNU and the Linux kernel, and indeed I agree that it is the more appropriate (more accurate) name, but your discussion style could be better. Long posts often go unread, and criticisms of specific editors allow people to dismis you, even when your point is correct, by citing editorial/civility rules. --Gronky (talk) 10:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for the suggestions. I will keep them in mind.

Lightedbulb (talk) 13:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your multiple edits on different pages that go against consensus

First of all please don't go against the consensus by parroting what Jimbo said, that's his opinion but it's not any better than the collective build consensus, you have to understand that Wikipedia is not pushing Jimbo's POV (as far as I know)

Second, please familiarize yourself with WP:3RR because you might infringe it pretty soon and you'll get blocked, believe me, I got burnt too. -- AdrianTM (talk) 03:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's true, I don't like "GNU/Linux" because is nothing else than POV-pushing (kind of free advertising) just as RMS freely admits, I also don't like that people who promote "free" software don't know when to let go... if it's free then you don't get to name anything build by somebody else that's based on free code. Anyway, that's why I don't like the term, but the clear fact is that people use the term "Linux" and if you read Wikipedia manual of style and its policies you'll see that it should use the common used name, not the "correct" one. BTW, there's no such thing as correct or accurate name, there simply is no such thing, people name things in a different way, we need to report who they name things not how they "should" be called. It's also not only my opinion, this status quo has resisted on Wikipedia for a long time that comes to show that there are many other people that support it. -- AdrianTM (talk) 04:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would add to the above that you seem to be deliberately misrepresenting Wales' comment and position in the project to justify your project-wide POV pushing. Single-purpose accounts that are here to edit war their point of view into articles, rather than improving the encyclopedia, tend to get blocked from editing very quickly. As AdrianTM stated, Wikipedia works by building consensus. You are making the changes, and if they are reverted, you have to justify them on the talk page and not start edit warring. Believe it or not, your opinion is not The Truth and this has been discussed before. Prolog (talk) 10:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All AdrianTM is stating is how much he personally dislikes the word GNU. I guess that you being from Finland Prolog feel some kind of pride in having people believe that the whole software packages that comprise any GNU/Linux distribution were created by a Finnish man. Unfortunately for you that is not the truth. Mr. Torvalds just helped with the kernel so when the Encyclopedia refers to anything else other than the kernel the correct naming convention must be used as stated by Wikipedia's founder Jimmy Wales. In the article there have been glaring inaccuracies such as presenting all software as being components of the Linux kernel. The aim is not to use GNU everywhere but to use the precise names to describe the subject matter.

Lightedbulb (talk) 12:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Small advice - just because people say that Linux is the common name to describe the GNU/Linux collaboration, doesn't mean that they are "anti" anything. Personally i started with GNU, and have run Linux since 0.99. I'm a strong Open-Source advocate, and find RMS' to be more in my court than Linus... Further i'm running a company in Denmark called LiGnus (just to make a point).

Despite this, i have no trouble with the wikipedia policy of naming things the way that they are most commonly used. And thus i've reverted you (or some of the other name-pushers) a couple of times.

Conspiracy thinking is an interesting pass-time - but reality must intercede once in a while. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 21:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a small correction I don't dislike GNU term, I dislike GNU/Linux term, and I explained why. I also dislike people who claim that the code is "free" only to see that they demand some special recognition for it, it's either free or it comes with strings attached, they need to pick one. Basically, if I give you a present it's bad form to ask you for something in return, if people don't like the idea of free code then they should use a more restrictive license that demands that anything based on their code use a specific name, simple as that. -- AdrianTM (talk) 04:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Bald Eeagle for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. Prolog (talk) 13:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rxart

Please, aid to neutralize and to improve this article that is in favor of being erased. It is a popular distribution in Latin America and that is entering Europe, and the European Union even contracted the creative company of Rxart to work in project MANCOOSI. excuse my bad English please. Thank you very much, I hope that it can help me. Here some links:

.--190.49.149.249 (talk) 22:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As this user has been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry, I'm afraid they won't be able to help. Also, you might want to take a look at WP:CANVAS - ideally you should be putting your requests in one central place, not asking lots of different users for help. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 22:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a Spam, only want that they help me to neutralize the article. To do copypaste is not to make Spam if it only is for helping to extend and to neutralize an article, thank you very much, until never. Excuse my English.--190.49.149.249 (talk) 22:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as I said, it is probably best that you place the request somewhere central, rather than asking individual users. Since this is a Linux related question, it is perhaps appropriate to request it on Talk:Linux. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 23:14, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]