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[edit]Hello, Brian. I really appreciate your adding a translation on which you worked so hard, but I've had to remove your name from the article again. Wikipedia does not permit people to sign their contributions to article space. Wikipedia:Ownership of articles explains that " Since no one "owns" any Wikipedia content, content should not be signed. The exact contributions of all editors are seen with their names on the page history." Many editors work very hard on their contributions; some of our featured content may represent dozens of hours of research and writing by individuals, but whenever anyone hits "save" they agree to release their contribution under our licensing scheme and to accept that form of attribution. I really do understand and appreciate your pride in that work, but until our policies are changed to permit all significant contributors to be listed in the face of articles, we can only offer contributors attribution of that sort. Only when external experts and published sources are cited within articles do we name individuals. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:43, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Brian. Today, on November 8, you have re-added your own translation to Un Canadien errant and you've also inserted your own name once again into the article text. Your name was previously removed by User:Moonriddengirl (on 26 April 2015) to impose our usual article standards. Be aware that you are risking a block for disruptive editing. I suggest that you undo all your changes to Un Canadien errant and instead try to persuade other editors on the article talk page that your material belongs. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:41, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, Brian. :) Thank you for your note. I need to clarify several points.
- First, I have never removed your translation from the article. I removed your name. I also have not edited the article since April. Somebody else twice removed your translation on the basis that it is not a published translation and hence not usable here.
- Second, with regards to why we name some translators but not you, the translator of the 1927 version is not a contributor to Wikipedia. His words were added by somebody else, and he is not given credit for his translation in the history of the article equally with all other editors of content. If you publish your translation in a reliable source such that it is compatibly licensed and somebody else chooses to incorporate that translation, they may well name you. They probably will, according to Wikipedia:Plagiarism and WP:MOSQUOTE. You, however, are quoting yourself. That's a different thing entirely. Simply put, WP:OWNBEHAVIOR notes that you should not put your name into the article. Your contribution here comes with a specific allowance that you are granting the right to use your content under the conditions of the terms of use, which guarantees you only inclusion in the list of authors.
- Third, your note on my talk page also suggests that you want your translation to remain intact. Please note that you cannot require this. Again, your contribution here comes with a specific allowance that you are granting the right to use your content under the conditions of the terms of use, and under the terms of use you agree to permit modification of your material. If your translation is used in the article, it is as open to modification as any other content.
- Quotations of material taken from published sources may not be modified, but, again, this is not the same situation. This is user-generated content and subject to the same rules as all other user-generated content.
- I appreciate here that your instinct to share a better translation is a generous one. But Wikipedia's policies may not make it possible to share it in the way that you would like. You cannot sign text you donate here, and you cannot prevent text you donate here from being changed. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, Brian. I'm afraid none of those is a reliable source as Wikipedia defines them. (See identifying reliable sources.) Wikipedia relies on peer-reviewed publications, including magazines, books and reliable industry websites. There are very few cases where blogs and personal websites can be used.
- I appreciate here that your instinct to share a better translation is a generous one. But Wikipedia's policies may not make it possible to share it in the way that you would like. You cannot sign text you donate here, and you cannot prevent text you donate here from being changed. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- We believe in credit, too, which is why our license requires attribution. However, attribution is given equally to all contributors. The people who researched and wrote the article on Texas Revolution, for instance, undoubtedly spent hundreds of hours doing so but their acknowledgement is not given in a by-line. Instead, their work is documented, edit by edit, in the history. We decided when Wikipedia was born that this was proper recognition for the medium. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:06, 13 November 2015 (UTC)