User talk:Maraviva

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Resources for your draft

Hi there Maraviva! I've compiled some pages that hopefully will guide you on the right path toward getting your draft into the mainspace.

• WP:WikiProject Companies — Probably the most comprehensive resource on creating a company page. I suggest exploring its subpages, in particular:
  • WP:WikiProject_Companies/Guidelines
  • WP:FAQ/Organizations

You may also want to look at Featured Business Articles (see Portal:Companies for a list of them) to see what a good article has. Personally, I do this with certain topics to get some inspiration. You don't have to follow the Featured Articles to the dot, however.

As to your draft, I think you should omit the "Locations" section as that seems rather promotional.

Happy editing! — BladeRikWr 21:51, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@BladeRikWr: Thank you so much! -- Maraviva (talk) 22:14, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: NextFab (August 20)

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Praxidicae (talk) 20:55, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Reliable or not?

Seeking advice around which articles I've used in my draft are reliable or not.

Here are the ones that seem the most in-depth, reliable, independent and secondary to me:

• https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/04/30/306235442/high-tech-maker-spaces-helping-little-startups-make-it-big
• https://www.keystoneedge.com/2018/12/12/remaking-philadelphia-at-nextfab/
• https://www.phillymag.com/business/2018/07/24/nextfab-philly-expansion-kensington/
• https://www.inquirer.com/philly/blogs/inq-phillydeals/nextfab-draws-makers-from-boston-nyc-to-philly-20170918.html

I appreciate your help!

Maraviva (talk) 13:41, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, I'll run down the sources in order:

1. The NPR source doesn't cover NextFab itself in detail after the quote from its CEO is removed (as that section isn't independent)
2. Keystone obviously has plenty of detail. It is also reliable. What could be disputed is independence - it's backed by a bunch of organisations that want local companies and organisations to be pushed. I've had a check at WP:RSN, nothing there, and am just unsure how i feel. Classifying this as a maybe for now.
3. Reliable and independent, it's a shame it didn't really talk about the company itself - it more just covers what is ultimately moving to a bigger building. However, Philly Voice's variation of the article does have some additional content. It could also be classified as a maybe.
4. Excellent source, even with various direct and indirect quotes removed, it's got plenty of content to satisfy Sig Cov.
5. Grid philly gets to be another one that is in the maybe camp on independence - they're a free newspaper and they specifically state they'll consider submitted stories by companies. That said, they're clearly aware of it and take steps to mitigate the issue. It's all very annoying - 1 more more clear source and I'd happily review it.
6. Wait, hold your horses, there's Delaware Business Times, yet again it's a maybe on the independence. However, this maybe is much closer to a good than the others.

All in all, I think it's marginal, but probably other the marker - if companies only had to meet general notability it'd be fine, but corporate notability is taken seriously. I'll have a look at the other facets of a review in the next day or two.

One aspect I've not considered is that of the advertorial rejection. While it's not flat out blatant, there's a few markers. Firstly, giving a couple of client examples in the prose text is probably ok, giving more than that, and in a list at that, is way too much. Don't put any external links (the ones that cause arrows) in the body of the article - if they don't have wiki articles just leave them black.

I'd advise trimming the expansion section - content should be proportioned to importance to the reader and source basis, and most readers won't view a company getting larger as their primary reason for reading about it. It needs to be there (not least because it anchors some of your key sources) but advise reducing.

Any negatives or even just conventional issues faced should also be included. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:13, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

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Nosebagbear (talk) 18:05, 22 August 2019 (UTC)