User talk:Orangeace

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Help request

Hi,

I'm not sure if I'm using this system properly, but I'll take a stab at it. I hope that I'm supposed to reply to messages at the top of the message (like this), rather than at the bottom. Thank you for the welcome message!

I have a question. I signed up as "Orangeace" on Wikipedia, and this is the second time I've signed up. I didn't particularly like the first username I chose. I thought it was rather silly, and, because it contained my initials plus a few other characters, thought it might identify me to certain users who could quite possibly figure out who I was (having "written" an article.) My question is this: is having 2 usernames allowable? If it's not, I wholeheartedly apologize, and I will do whatever you wish me to do in accordance with Wikipedia regulations.

I'd appreciate if you could advise me what to do. I'm content with the username I have now, and do not plan on changing it, unless otherwise told to do so by Wikipedia administrators.

Thank you for your help. I'm copying and pasting the tildes to enter my signature (as I don't know how to type them on the keyboard), so I hope it works.

Orangeace (talk) 20:27, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, and welcome :-)

It's better to add stuff to the end of your page, in a new section - so I've moved this here; makes it easier to follow things.

What you've done is fine; it's wrong to use multiple accounts for evil purposes - such as double-voting in a deletion debate, that kind of thing; see WP:MULTIPLE.

It's possible to rename accounts, but in this case, I suspect the easiest answer is this;

Simply log in to the old account, change the password to something crazy, log out, and forget about it.

If you like, if you tell me your old account name, I can redirect it to this one - just in case someone ever tries to contact you about any contributions you made with it. Let me know below.

Please note that accounts are never actually deleted, because of the way the software tracks each and every contribution, in the history.

I hope this answers your questions; if you have any more, please use another helpme - at the bottom - or, perhaps better, talk to us live.

Best wishes. 20:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

{{adminhelp}}

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. I'll tell you my "older" account name: Hj007. It's probably a good idea to have all correspondence go to my "newer" name, which is Orangeace. Would you mind redirecting my old account (Hj007) to my new one (Orangeace), as you mentioned? In doing so, will messages to my old name be directed to Orangeace, e.g. if someone wishes to comment on something I authored as "Hj007"? If so, then that's ideal.

Thanks for your help!

Best wishes,

Orangeace (talk) 20:57, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I am not an admin, but your request didn't necessitate one. Just wanted to make that clear :-) I just redirected user talk:Hj007 to your new talk page (this one). I would've also redirected your old userpage to your new one but neither account has a userpage! Killiondude (talk) 22:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Help on evidence

Hi,

Could someone be so kind as to explain to me how to provide evidence that content is accurate. For example, I'd like to add something to a page that discusses Swiss French and that I know is true, but how can I prove that it is true, for the encyclopedia and its readers?

Thanks!

Orangeace (talk) 20:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You need references; I'll add my notes on how to do it, below. Chzz ► 20:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. For any further help, please create a new section at the end of your page, and put a {{helpme}} there, followed by your question. Alternatively, you can always talk to us live. Cheers, Chzz ► 21:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tips on referencing

To 'prove' the facts in an article, you need to use references from reliable sources, such as books, newspapers, etc. The sources need to be verifiable, and thus will establish the notability of the subject.

There are lots of ways to do this, some are simple, some more complex.

Personally, I like using citation templates, and fill in as much as I possibly can; maybe a bit more work, but I think it looks better. You have a <REF> at the start, then a suitable cite tag, then </REF>. An example usage is;

<ref>
{{Citation
 | last = Preston
 | first = Peter
 | title = D. H. Lawrence in the modern world
 | last2 = Hoare
 | first2 = Peter
 | author2-link =
 | publication-date = 1989
 | edition = illustrated
 | place = [[Cambridge]], [England]
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
 | url = http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=J5nRoaOwkPMC&printsec=frontcover#PPA125,M1
 | accessdate = 2008-05-11
}}
</ref>

For all the possible things to include, see Template:Citation

Of course, you don't have to put everything in, just whatever you can. The above example is a book, but I've included a 'convenience link' to a website that displays it.

Then, at the end of the document (but before any 'category' tags), you need a references section. You just put,

== References ==

{{reflist}}

Hard work? - help is at hand. There are lots of tools that create cite tags automagically. Personally, I use Zotero for the web links, and the cite book generator for books.

I also recommend you look at other articles and copy from them - especially featured articles, which should have good refs.

Hope this help, cheers, Chzz ► 20:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for the info! I'll try to find a good source, and then try my hand at putting it on the page.

Orangeace (talk) 20:53, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problems; yes, have a go. If you need help with it, you've got options;

Ask me on my talk page

(good for non-urgent halps from me personally)

talk to us live

(great for insta-help; highly recommended; call in and say 'hi')

Use a {{helpme}}

(when stuck with a specific problem or confusion)

Try WP:FEED

(excellent for a general 'how can I improve this' etc; replies may take several days)

Cheers, Chzz ► 21:50, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Summary

Hi,

I have another question. Sometimes, when I have a look at the history of a page, some people put a short sentence of notes, explaining to the previous writer why they made a certain change. Can you please tell me how to do this? Thanks! Orangeace (talk) 15:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Howdy. That message comes from the edit summary - that's the box below the large window, each time you edit. Please always fill this in with a short comment explaining the changes you make. See Help:Edit summary for full details. Cheers! Chzz ► 15:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question about "citation needed" and references. On the "Recipients of the Bronze Wolf Award" page, there is a "citation needed" beside one of the recipients. I know for a fact and am 100% sure that this person received this award, but I'm not sure where I can find a reference to back that up.

The same applies for a Wikipedia page about to a recipient of this award. I know that everything on the page is 100% accurate, but how can I find references to back those statements up, especially if nothing, to my knowledge, has been published about that recipient? Thanks!

Orangeace (talk) 14:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there.

Unfortunately, 'I know for a fact' is not sufficient, because the fact needs to be verifiable. If there is no reliable source, then the information cannot be included.

Think of it this way - if you had to 'prove' that they won that award to me, the reader, how could you do so?

Chzz ► 14:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I assume you probably mean List of recipients of the Bronze Wolf Award? Did you mean Leonard F. Jarrett or John A. Landau? I just spent about 30 mins looking for a ref for the latter, but couldn't find one :-( Chzz ► 14:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question about Unreferenced

Hi,

I was wondering if the "ambot content.png" could be removed now that I have provided references for the "Leonard F. Jarrett" page. Thanks!

Orangeace (talk) 15:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there!

A few tips;

Please create a new section on your talk page when you start a new conversation - as I've now done for this section, by putting == Question about Unreferenced ==
When you describe an article on a talk page, please put the article name inside [[ ]], for example [[Leonard F. Jarrett]], which will appear like this; Leonard F. Jarrett (I'm lazy, and if you do that, I can just click on the link)
You don't need to use an adminhelp for this; remember that admins just have a few extra buttons to actually perform delete actions etc. You'd be surprised how much you can do yourself. For example, in this case...
The 'tag' at the top of the article is because the article contains this bit at the very top;

{{BLPunsourced|date=May 2009|missing=yes}}

This 'code' makes that box appear.

If you feel that you have dealt with this problem, then you can just remove it yourself - no problem. Put something meaningful in the edit summary (as always), like "I have now added references, so I am deleting the 'unsourced' tag"

I hope this helps; please note that it's not a criticism, I'm just giving you these tips to help make your life easier on Wikipedia.

Please have a go at removing that tag for yourself; if you have problems, please use a {{helpme}} here, or talk to us live.

Cheers! Chzz ► 15:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

== Eduardo Missoni ==

When I click on the links for some of the references near the bottom of the [[Eduardo Missoni]] page, a strange page turns up and pop-ups appear. In other words, I cannot access the proper pages for the reference links. Thanks!

Orangeace (talk) 20:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help request

== List of recipients of the Bronze Wolf Award ==

Hi,

I'd like to have the "citation needed" tag removed from List of recipients of the Bronze Wolf Award for the recipient Leonard F. Jarrett, as I have provided an excellent reference for this person. Thanks!

Orangeace (talk) 20:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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