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Your submission at Articles for creation: George Spanos (drummer) (June 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CASSIOPEIA was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 04:06, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Pekalicious! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 04:06, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CASSIOPEIA. Thank you for reviewing my submission and the comments you have left. I'd like to point out a few things in the hopes I give enough context for why I consider George Spanos a good fit for Wikipedia.

Firstly, All About Jazz is a very prominent Jazz publication that even has its own Wikipedia entry: All About Jazz

Secondly, a lot of the names referenced in the discography who also have their entries in Wikipedia (and are prominent figures in Jazz) already mention George Spanos in their own pages. For example, Juini Booth#Discography, Leo Genovese#Discography, Daniel Carter (musician)#Discography, and Ikue Mori#Discography are all known jazz musicians that have collaborated with George Spanos on records and they all are linking to George Spanos' Wikipedia page that doesn't yet exist. These references were added by somebody else prior to my draft.

Furthermore, if you look at the Wikipedia pages of the referenced artists you will notice that they too have very few mainstream media coverage, but, like George, have enough in the jazz space to qualify for a Wikipedia entry.

Finally, there is media coverage for George's world tours but unfortunately they are either in another language and I don't know how to quote them like this: https://actionjazz.fr/gazette/09-Gazette-03.2015.pdf, or the original page no longer exists and only an unverifiable audio recording can be found like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTMcNmXMAFU

I respect your decision to decline my submission but I would appreciated if you reconsidered given my above statements.

If you still believe that this is not enough, I would gladly search further for more sources because I believe George Spanos deserves to be on Wikipedia considering he has twice been awarded an artist visa specifically for his contributions to jazz.

Thank you. Pekalicious (talk) 05:25, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pekalicious, Greetings. You need to provide significant coverage of independent, reliable sources where by the sources talk about the subject in length and in depth and not merely passing mentioned. Pls see the notability requirement for musician - WP:NMUSIC. Btw pls ping the editor you intended to send the message to - see WP:ping. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:31, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CASSIOPEIA: I understand. I will look for references that fulfill those requirements. Thank you. Pekalicious (talk) 05:38, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pekalicious, Pls note that sources can be in any languages and newspapers and books are good independent, reliable sources. Also pls see WP:GOLDENRULE. Thanks for the pining and let me know if anything else I could help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:41, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:George Spanos (drummer) concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:George Spanos (drummer), a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:George Spanos (drummer)

Hello, Pekalicious. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "George Spanos".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CptViraj (📧) 10:39, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]