User talk:Planglois012

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Good morning!

I'm currently uploading the translation of the French page of this article.

I have all the sources and copyrights to publish this article, I'm simply working my way through citing everything right now.

Thank you for your understanding and i will make sure that everything is up to date ASAP :) Planglois012 (talk) 14:56, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Help me![edit]

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Please help me with... I'm currently under contract from Denis Ouimet to upload the translation of this wikipedia page https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Houymet and publish it on the English page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Houymet The problem is that Denis Ouimet gave me a word document with the text that I need to upload but the same text is also available on this website: https://www.associationouimet.net/history-of-jean-ouimet

What's the best way for me to prove that I have permission to publish the text on Wikipedia and not get all my work deleted because of a copyright issue? Planglois012 (talk) 15:09, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You must first make the Terms of Use required paid editing disclosure. 331dot (talk) 15:17, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just added it to my user page. I'm just uploading a text that has been written by the Association Ouimet to Wikipedia.

How can I be sure that my work will not be deleted based on copyrights infringement? Planglois012 (talk) 15:33, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The text will have to be altered to include inline citations and altering the tonality to become more formal. Is that okay within the contract you're under? I dream of horses ^{(Contribs) (Talk)} 15:46, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The text that is available online at https://www.associationouimet.net/history-of-jean-ouimet appears to predate its inclusion at the French Wikipedia in October 2016. ("The French version of this text was revised in 2009 by Céline Ouimet-Larivière, Monique Ouimet-Drolet, Richard Ouimet and in 2016 by Madeleine Ouimet-Théorêt. The English version was revised by Barry MacKenzie and Brian Christensen. This text will posted later in a Wikipedia article.") Because it was previously published, it is copyright protected, and cannot be copied to Wikipedia unless released under a compatible license.

If the copyright holder wishes to do this, please see WP:Requesting copyright permission for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. — Diannaa (talk) 18:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

October 2023[edit]

Your edit to Jean Houymet has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. — Diannaa (talk) 23:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We can't take your word for it that you have permission to copy from that website. We need to have documentation that shows the copyright holders have given permission for the material to be copied to this website. Wikipedia has procedures in place for this purpose. Please see WP:Donating copyrighted materials for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. — Diannaa (talk) 23:06, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We went through the whole process already of requesting copyright permission. Denis Ouimet, Author of the text and owner of the https://www.associationouimet.net/history-of-jean-ouimet Webiste sent an email based on the template WP:Consent.

Here's what we wrote to Wikipedia:

Bonsoir,

Je confirme par la présente être l'auteur et le titulaire unique et exclusif des droits d'auteur attachés au texte https://www.associationouimet.net/history-of-jean-ouimet

L’article en français = https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Ouimet

Le résumé en anglais = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Ouimet (qui doit être remplacé par le texte en fichier joint qui est plus étoffé pour renseigner les lecteurs anglophones)

Je donne mon autorisation pour publier cette œuvre sous la licence Creative Commons Paternité-Partage des Conditions Initiales à l'Identique 4.0 Unported [1]

Je comprends qu'en faisant cela, je permets à quiconque d'utiliser mon œuvre, y compris dans un but commercial, et de la modifier dans la mesure des exigences imposées par la licence.

Je suis conscient de toujours jouir des droits extra-patrimoniaux sur mon œuvre et garder le droit d'être cité pour celle-ci selon les termes de la licence retenue. Les modifications que d'autres pourront faire ne me seront pas attribuées.

Je suis conscient qu'une licence libre concerne seulement les droits patrimoniaux de l'auteur, et je garde la capacité d'agir envers quiconque n'emploierait pas ce travail d'une manière autorisée, ou dans la violation des droits de la personne, des restrictions de marque déposée, etc.

Je comprends que je ne peux pas retirer cette licence, et que le texte est susceptible d'être conservé de manière permanente par n'importe quel projet de la fondation Wikimedia.

We've received this answer:

Bonjour Denis Ouimet,

Merci pour votre courriel. À mon avis, ni le texte anglais ni le texte français de Wikipedia ne ressemblent suffisamment à votre texte sur https://www.associationouimet.net/history-of-jean-ouimet pour nécessiter une autorisation de droit d'auteur.

L'équipe de support n'a ni l'expertise ni le temps de se pencher sur le contenu de l'article et d'y apporter des modifications. Je vous suggère de présenter vos modifications prévues sur la page de discussion de l'article en français et en anglais, respectivement.

Cordialement,

Otto Ottensen

Based on the answer from Wikipedia, there was no problem with publishing the text from the Website to Wikipedia.

Can you confirm that if all the steps in the Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials are followed, the updates that I do to the Jean Houymet page will stop being deleted? I've passed countless hours updating the page for it to always be deleted.

Is there a way to undo the delete that you did once all the copyrights problems are solved?

Thank you very much and I'm waiting to hear back from you Planglois012 (talk) 00:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping to Diannaa, noting that there was a ticket sent in for the French version which has yet to be checked for the English page. Primefac (talk) 09:43, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the person checked against the version where the overlapping content had already been removed. Since there's a pending ticket noted on the article talk page I am going to restore the content for now, to make it easier for the VRT agents to assess, and hopefully issue the required ticket. — Diannaa (talk) 18:45, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

The following lines have been added to the https://www.associationouimet.net/history-of-jean-ouimet Webste (source of the text in this article)

The text of this website is available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 4.0 International License and the GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).

Is there anything else that I need to do to make sure that we have no more copyrights issues with the Jean Ouimet page? Planglois012 (talk) 11:29, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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