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Election date links
Hallo, just to let you that WP:SBSGUIDE at Wikipedia:WikiProject Succession Box Standardization/Guidelines#Parliamentary seats (s-par) says that dates should link to elections in scores for UK MPs. I've reverted your unlinking at Gen Kitchen and Damien Egan. Thanks PamD 07:00, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- @PamD: Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I wouldn't normally approve of this use of links, but since it's an established guideline I'm happy to leave it alone. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 17:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just noticed a typo - for "scores" read "sboxes"! Autocorrect, but I should have noticed. I don't like links from years usually, but the sort to "1952 in Turkish cinema" or whatever seem quite established too. These in the sboxes make sense, as it does shed light on the manner of their election, as well as the exact date. There's always something new to learn about editing Wikipedia, even for those of us who've been around for quite a while. PamD 18:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Oh, what's all this... I know this individual, I was at a party at her house last year. I had no idea she was a baroness of Wall Heath though, how fascinating. Thanks for helping to bring it to our attention 🙂 — Amakuru (talk) 15:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: Some coincidence! I've been indulging in content creation in one of my side interests of British politicians and members of the peerage, and trying my hand at improving BLPs, so an article like this one is ideal for that. Of course, if you know of any reliably sourced information on Ramsey, feel free to add/suggest it (although I suppose there might be a slight COI involved). — RAVENPVFF · talk · 17:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Good Friday
Bach composed a piece to be performed on Good Friday, and we have rules that demand it shall appear on 7 April, just because Good Friday was on 7 April when it was first performed? 300 years ago. I think those rules are not good. 7 April is in the midst of Eastertide, and poor Bach would revolve in his grave if we brought it then ;) - seriously, he was driven to follow the liturgical year, not the calendar. Letting Z1720 know. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ravenpuff was correct: OTD runs hooks on the calendar date that they happened, not the holiday. Z1720 (talk) 17:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- You mean we have rules that make us wait for Good Friday being on 7 April even if that is the 327 or what anniversary instead of 300? It happened just last year. - Knowing Bach a bit I'd not want it on 7 April 2024. We do have holidays with a changing date, Ramadan, Hannukah - why not respect that? (Yes, when looking for a date for a TFA, I'd deviate from the liturgy, realizing that people will not even know when exactly the 17th Sunday after Trinity is . But for Good Friday, I expect enough of them to know, and not to want a reference to it on some later Sunday.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, April 7 does not have to be Good Friday for the Bach hook to be featured on OTD. Only the dates of holidays move every year, if they have a different date. If you would like this to change, you would have to propose a policy change at WP:RFC or WT:OTD. Z1720 (talk) 18:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think I have a language problem. What in my explanation that this work is only possible on Good Friday did you not understand? We'll patiently wait then for that being on a 7th April, - possibly not during my lifetime. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: As Z1720 said, we can definitely feature St John Passion in its 300th anniversary year, just that it will have to be on 7 April, despite what Bach might have wanted! I understand that this is not ideal as that falls after Easter this year, but the way OTD is laid out on the Main Page is that it has the current calendar date prominently at the top, and so it follows that all the anniversaries that appear underneath are those that occurred on the same date. It would simply be too misleading to do otherwise. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 19:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- You can feature it on 7 April 2024, but I can't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: As Z1720 said, we can definitely feature St John Passion in its 300th anniversary year, just that it will have to be on 7 April, despite what Bach might have wanted! I understand that this is not ideal as that falls after Easter this year, but the way OTD is laid out on the Main Page is that it has the current calendar date prominently at the top, and so it follows that all the anniversaries that appear underneath are those that occurred on the same date. It would simply be too misleading to do otherwise. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 19:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think I have a language problem. What in my explanation that this work is only possible on Good Friday did you not understand? We'll patiently wait then for that being on a 7th April, - possibly not during my lifetime. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, April 7 does not have to be Good Friday for the Bach hook to be featured on OTD. Only the dates of holidays move every year, if they have a different date. If you would like this to change, you would have to propose a policy change at WP:RFC or WT:OTD. Z1720 (talk) 18:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- You mean we have rules that make us wait for Good Friday being on 7 April even if that is the 327 or what anniversary instead of 300? It happened just last year. - Knowing Bach a bit I'd not want it on 7 April 2024. We do have holidays with a changing date, Ramadan, Hannukah - why not respect that? (Yes, when looking for a date for a TFA, I'd deviate from the liturgy, realizing that people will not even know when exactly the 17th Sunday after Trinity is . But for Good Friday, I expect enough of them to know, and not to want a reference to it on some later Sunday.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)