User talk:RonRice

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Hello, RonRice, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Newyorkbrad (talk) 04:04, 11 January 2011 (UTC)


Hello there, when asking a question on other user's talk page, please do not put the {{help me}} template, as it adds the user in the [[Category:Wikipedians looking for help]] and users who monitor this category are alerted. Just asking the question to the editor as normal text by adding a new section (clicking on the '+' or 'Add new section' button next to 'Edit' on top of the page) will suffice. The {{help me}} template can be used on this page to alert other users you need help. Anyways, thank you for your contributions and welcome to Wikipedia! :) [CharlieEchoTango] 04:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Help user[edit]

I don't know how to reply to you. YOur talk page says to leave a msg here. HOW do you know I sent it? I'd like help with my edits of GCT page. See Discussions tab on GC Terminal. Thanks, Ron RonRice (talk) 18:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I know you replied because your talk page is on my watchlist : WP:Watchlist (your watchlist is here : Special:Watchlist). I do not know what GCT page is, but you could ask your question (with more precisions) on WP:Help desk. Hope this helped! - [CharlieEchoTango] 20:17, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Pls see all the details at: Where else should I post this to get help to update GCT main page?RonRice (talk) 02:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

James Kellum Smith[edit]

Hi RonRice. Thanks for your mesg on my talk page. If you need help on the parameters for the template called template:Infobox artist, click on the link. It will give you the help page. For using dates in the template. Check this out Template:Birth date and age. It will guide you on how to apply this to the article. I think you have indeed removed the tags {{nofootnotes}} from the top of the page. So it won't appear anymore. Thanks for adding more references to make the article more encyclopedic. Hope this helps. --Visik (talk) 05:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

RonRice, Sorry I forgot to mention, if you need help already exit images. Assuming the images already has been added, you can use this wiki markup. [[File:Example.jpg]] or you can click on the embedded file icon in your editing screen.
To upload a image, click on the Toolbox from the left main menu and select upload file. Make yourself familiar with the Image use policy on the page or follow the internal links on the page. --Visik (talk) 02:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Dear Visik, and Hello, Redrose64!

Thanks for your help- I appreciate your adding categories, too. I added similar ones to all the MM&W pages I follow now. Thankfully, one of you fixed this InfoBOX , so I can use it easily for others now.

{{Infobox artist | birthdate = 1893 | birthplace = U.S. | deathdate = 1961 (aged 67–68)

Being a CPA, I love organized table and "Spreadsheets", so

I am wondering how to do this neat little InfoBOX for 3 people on the McKim, Mead and White page? or how to do a 3 column table?

Finally, Why doesn't Wiki make [Templates] to ease adding of people like architects I am adding? It would seem to make a lot of sense to make novices feel more comfortable and make it easier to get others to contribute.

This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can ask another question on your talk page, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.


Who sees this HELP REQUEST when I place this note here? Only others who have added me as a WATCH list?

Thanks, RonRonRice (talk) 01:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

When you place the template, the en-help channel on IRC is alerted, and this page appears in a category that some users monitor. [CharlieEchoTango] 02:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

So, I should NOT put the HelpMe here? I did NOT get all my questions answered, so am I supposed to put the HelpME back? RonRice (talk) 02:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, this is the place to put the helpme template, but when you add the template, you add the questions BELOW the template. You have some questions above and one below, the person looking for the template saw the question below the template and answered it. So, yes, you should add the template again and place open questions below it.--SPhilbrickT 02:48, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Tables: You can find a lot of help on how to create tables at Help:Table. However, before you read it all, I never create a table directly in WP, I create them in Excel, and then convert using the Helferlein Macro (see the first external link at the bottom of the page.) --SPhilbrickT 02:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)


There are thousands of templates. I'm not entirely sure I follow your question. If you are looking for an info box specifically for architects, there is one {{Template:Infobox architect}}. If you were asking something else, ask me at my talk page and I'll respond here.--SPhilbrickT 02:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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Just clarifying[edit]

I'm willing to convert the Excel file into a wikipedia table if you email it to me. If you did email it, please let me know, just in case i accidentally deleted it.--SPhilbrickT 16:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC) The process is as follows:

  • Go to my talk page
  • Look for "E-mail this user" on theft panel (you might have to opeen the toolbox)
  • While that option won;t allow you to send me an attachment, you can send me an email with a valid email address for you. I'll respond, and let you know an address to send the file.
  • Sorry it is moderately complicated, but it is necessary to ensure that editors can only access email addresses of editors willing to provide them.--SPhilbrickT 20:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, you are right, I should have sent you an email, I forgot to check to see if your email was enabled (it isn't on by default.) You now have an email.--SPhilbrickT 18:36, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
See User:RonRice/Table--SPhilbrickT 22:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Re dead links and other questions[edit]

Regarding your question about dead links, there is a template, {{Dead link}}, which can be placed after a reference to signify that it is dead. That will serve as an alert to anyone who might be motivated to search for a working link. (I added it after confirming it is a dead link - if I get time later, I'll look to see if I can replace it with a better link EDIT I looked a bit, but didn't find anything other than a lot of Wikipedia mirrors).

The nice INFObox should always go in upper Right hand corner, shouldn't it?


The photo there is really NOT their work- it was done after all 3 partners were Dead or retired. I'd like to put that photo lower on page in a photo gallery,to which I can add.

First, a photo gallery, which is not always my first choice for an article, might work well here. I think it is always better to have photos illustrating text, but if you have access to several photos, it might make sense to add them as a gallery at first, then think through whether they can be incorporated into a section. Our very best articles rarely have galleries.

It is common to have a photo in the info box. In most cases, it would be considered the centerpiece photo, so if there is one particular building that is considered their signature work, I would add it to the infobox.

"Demoting" the position of a picture is something I would do with great care. Having said this, I don't recall reading any particular guidance on this issue, but it is clear that someone felt the MMB deserved prominence, and they might not be happy if someone unilaterally dropped it into a gallery. However, this might get resolved quite easily. If you were to post on the talk page that the MMB shouldn't be as prominent, for the reasons you mention, and explain your proposal, it might well not get any pushback, in which case it could simply be done. If some later objects, the track record of discussion with no major opposition on the talk page will be helpful.

FYI, the MMB photo was added by David Shankbone on 19 February 2007, although it wasn't as prominent when first added. David is an active editor. It would be smart to chat with him regarding any plans you might have regarding photos. In theory all editors have equal standing, but when someone goes tot he trouble of obtaining a photo and including it in an article, I think it is polite to discus with them any plans for moving.

(I owe you some answers regarding the table itself, need to do some checking first, probably will not answer until tomorrow.)--SPhilbrickT 01:30, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Copyright question[edit]

Responding to your email question:

An Original picture published in US before 1923 is always in public domain, right?

Copyright is an area of interest to me, but I'm still learning. My understanding is yes, anything published before 1023 in the US is now public domain (I had to look it up, because I was thinking there was a dual trigger, depending on authors death, and date of publication, but that applies to 1978 or later works.

I used List_of_countries'_copyright_length for reference.

Just FYI, I've found the editors at WP:IMAGEHELP to be very knowledgeable; that's where I go for copyright questions.--SPhilbrickT 14:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC) Good tip for link- I will use the following tags as it states on that site:

for works by authors who died more than 100 years ago.

Template:PD-old-80 for works by authors who died more than 80 years ago. Template:PD-old-75 for works by authors who died more than 75 years ago.

for works by authors who died more than 70 years ago.

for U.S. works published before 1 January 1923

for non-U.S. works published before 1 January 1923.

for works that are in the public domain in their source countries on 1 January 1996.

Why does this format so strange, when there are NO leading blank spaces? RonRice (talk) 20:07, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Table questions[edit]

You asked: How can I change the Text size Globally? In theory, I think there is a way to set a font size overall, however, in this example, the font size is specified for each and every row, so the default would never be used. Can I specify ONE Font size for 1st Column and another for all the other 4 Columns? Tables are very much row oriented. You can specify attributes for a row, but not directly for a column. You can a column indirectly (and painfully) by changing each and every cell in the column. Does this Macro make the Font size MATCH whatever I have in my EXCEL file? I believe it does, so unless I want to make minor changes, such as modify column widths, I change it in Excel and regenerate.--SPhilbrickT 17:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

How can I change the Table size Globally?

Can you please add the table to the MM&W page?

Note that one user commments that it MAY not be good??,_Mead_%26_White His idea to use the General Architect office template is not good, I think.

How did you add the new Table page for me like this ?

How come it does NOT show up on my User page with my usual tabs?

RonRice (talk) 23:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC) You did not see my question on that page, so I moved it here now. I have sent you several emails and am waiting for answers. Do I really need to copy them all here, so Everyone Can see them? RonRice (talk) 03:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Please do not add your home-made "infobox" to the McKim, Mead & White article, it will be removed. The information in it can be converted to text and integrated into the article in that fashion. The table will not be an improvement to the article, and it's a waste of your energy to continue to work on it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Your question re images[edit]

You asked:

I don't understand the rule of when we can post old photos from Books onto a Wiki page. An Original picture published in US before 1923 is always in public domain, right?

That's my understanding. I've looked into copyright issues enough to know that they can be very tricky, and I often ask for help at Wikipedia:Copyright_questions, where the editors are usually fairly prompt (more so than me), and usually knowledgeable.--SPhilbrickT 22:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Usage of information gleaned from an audio source[edit]

You asked a question about usage of information gleaned from an audio source, in particular, a radio show that is currently online, but may not be always online.

I'll quote from the guideline:

However, audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable third-party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable source. Like text sources, media sources must be produced by a reliable third-party and be properly cited. Additionally, an archived copy of the media must exist. It is useful but by no means necessary for the archived copy to be accessible via the Internet.

As I see it, you have two issues to address:

  1. Is there an archived copy of the radio show? (if online now, will it be archived at some time). Note the archive does not necessarily have to be online, but another researcher must be able to access it somehow.
  2. Is the show viewed as a reliable source? I don't know anything about the show in question, but the key points are whether editorial control over content is exercised. For example, in this RFC, the question arose whether audio blogcast was allowed. The answer was no, but it didn't turn on the fact that it was an audio source, but whether there was editorial control.

The Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard is the right place to ask if The Leonard Lopate Show would qualify as a reliable source.--SPhilbrickT 23:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Editing while logged out[edit]

Now that you have an account, please remember to log in before you edit. This contribution was made when you were logged out, so that only your IP address is seen. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:37, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

On another note, I have removed the bulk of that edit because it is almost certainly a cut-and-paste from elsewhere, which is a copyright violation. Copyrighted material is only allowed on Wikipedia under very specific circumstances, and long passages in general cannot be quoted. This is especially true on user pages. Please see WP:COPYVIO. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

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