User talk:Sam4493882388
January 2023
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Hello Sam4493882388. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.
Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Sam4493882388. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Sam4493882388|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}
. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 15:23, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. I'm Penelope Trunk. I've been editing the page myself. I wish I were getting paid because it's been a huge amount of work to learn how to do it.
- Here's why I'm doing it: I received an invitation to speak at Harvard and my son asked me why. I told him I'm famous, and he said, "If you were really famous you would have a much longer wikipedia page." Then I remembered that around 2009 there was a big fight about my Wikipedia page because what I was writing was controversial and people were tearing me down all over the internet. So my page just sort of disappeared. And I didn't care. I was doing other things. I'm older now, and I've had a long career, and it's starting to bother me that there is so little record of it. So I put together the page myself, as best I could. Then I thought I'd write about the page on my blog and ask if there is an experienced wikipedia editor among my readers who can fix it to be compliant. Sam4493882388 (talk) 15:37, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Please review WP:COI. You should not be editing the page on yourself. MrOllie (talk) 16:11, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- One more thing. Look at this comment someone left in June 2020:
- Her column was NOT syndicated in 200 newspapers across the USA. I called many of the papers she claimed to have been in. They said she wasn't. She is a chronic liar, like Sarah Palin. She should be treated as such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:643:8104:730:C501:2E4B:A9CC:1909 (talk) 08:28, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- First of all, this person is not editing wikipedia, they are character assassinating me. And you are so careful in the front of wikipedia, but in the back end you let people do anything, and that matters. This is totally unacceptable. This guy cannot talk like this to me on any other site and get my attention, but he can do it here, because you don't stop people from being jerks in the editing pages.
- The other thing about his comment is that I was syndicated in 2007-2009. Why is he fact checking now? Why are you letting him? If you let someone ask crazy questions, you legitimize the crazy question. If you want to be seen as a neutral authority then you owe it to the public to sound like a neutral party in all areas of the site -- not just in the front. If you compare the number of women who are harassed in the backend of your editing system to the number of men who are harassed, it won't even be close -- women are suffering because of your policy of letting people say whatever they want in the talk section. Sam4493882388 (talk) 23:07, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. MrOllie (talk) 20:27, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
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. David Gerard (talk) 22:08, 3 January 2023 (UTC)- Hi, David. People have spent 15 years arguing about if I'm famous enough to have a wikipedia page. At some point it becomes clear that the editing on my page has been predominantly misogynist. You deleted a link that was to a law review article, referencing me, about how women like me put up with so much harassment online that it causes us financial damage. And you deleted a link that says that only 9% of edits on wikipedia are made by women, and that most women give up editing on wikipedia because men delete what they write.
- My career is primarily about issues that concern gender. Hypertext is anti-patriarchal. My blog is controversial because of what I write about women. I'm known as a woman who broke the glass ceiling in tech. I'm well known for writing about my miscarriage and domestic violence.
- It's extremely frustrating that given all that, I'm still faced with a cadre of men arguing that I don't deserve to have a page on wikipedia. If those men had not been arguing for 15 years then my page wouldn't be so empty. I don't mind being edited. I see that you're editing what I write so it is compliant with the neutral tone. But I mind that only male voices are heard on wikipedia and i mind that my page has been a blood bath for the conflict. so can we proceed where I write and you edit? Sam4493882388 (talk) 22:47, 3 January 2023 (UTC)