User talk:Sohail.rahim

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spam warning[edit]

A tag has been placed on Dinner2go, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group or service and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Gsd2000 18:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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A tag has been placed on Dinner2go.co.uk requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Your recent edits[edit]

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Your article draft[edit]

Hello. I noticed that you asked for input on another page so I took a look at the article draft in your sandbox, and this is my honest opinion about it. According to your draft article your company is a small company in Brighton, with 20 employees, yet you compare yourself to a number of other companies, which you list as "competitors". A comparison that is not realistic, since those companies are much larger than your company. Your company might be a competitor to individual franchisees or locations of those other companies, but you're not a competitor to the entire company of either of them. There are tens of thousands of take-away food companies around the world the same size as yours, companies that do not have an article on Wikipedia, and they're the ones you should compare yourself to, not Hungryhouse, Just Eat or Takeaway.com.

Wikipedia require all companies that get an article here to pass a threshold of notability, a notability proven by multiple reliable third party sources independent of the subject (see WP:GNG and WP:COMPANY), but there's not a single such source/reference in your draft, and without such sources there's no chance whatsoever for you to get an article here.

I hope you don't see my comments as rude, because the're not intended that way, but several other editors have already tried to tell you basically the same as what I'm saying now, to no avail. I know that having an article on Wikipedia would be good for business, but Wikipedia is explicitly not for creating notability, we only report on companies, people and things that already are notable. Thomas.W talk 18:02, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Thomas... Thanks for your message. Your message has had the clearest explanation so far. The first few messages were very cryptic, considering i'm new to all this. The second person that responded to me was a bit clearer, and i'm trying to figure out what needs to be done.

No your comment was not rude at all... I'm trying to get to grips with this, and found it extremely offensive that my article was removed without any chance to fix it, or not put into "pending / draft" mode or something, rather than just crushing it completely and making me feel really stupid.

Now... about the article... I agree the competitors listed are much larger than us, but we give them a good run for their money, and we're a major threat to them in our city (Brighton).

In that sense, we already are "notable", and I"m not trying to create notability via this article. There's many other small companies that have articles / pages on Wikipedia. I'll try to look them up and send them to you.

I need to go away and find the articles that have been written about us in the past. Does it have to be online articles, or are printed newspaper articles any good?

For now, I'm looking at this as a comparison... - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DASHED - Yes, they're bigger and in 8 cities, but they have only 12 smart cars that they own. We're only in 1 city, and own 12 smart cars of our own!

Also, what would happen if I was to mark a page as spam? These ones already have tags to say they're written like an advert

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justdial - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delivery.com - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EatStreet

Also, these articles have lots of references on their own website. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Eat - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungryhouse - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeaway.com

Is that allowed? Sohail.rahim (talk) 18:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Self-published sources, including links to own website, are allowed as long as an article isn't primarily based on such sources. Meaning that if there are enough in-depth coverage in reliable third-party sources independent of the subject to establish notability, self-published sources can be used for additional information (provided the additional information isn't purely promotional, that is). Thomas.W talk 18:39, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that 'notable' as used here isn't the same as in most dictionaries - just as 'steam' in everyday English isn't the same as in engineering or science. It refers to the coverage in reliable independent sources, with the result that an article about a bus shelter on a Scottish island could pass but an article about a multi-million dollar turnover company could fail. (Both real cases - the company made own brand goods for chain stores and sold absolutely nothing under their own name. The bus shelter had coverage on both sides of the Atlantic, but the company had nothing.) Peridon (talk) 12:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]