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Recent edit to Jobs in Dubai

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Hello, and thank you for your recent contribution. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit because I believe the article was better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! Dcirovic (talk) 15:58, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflicts of interest in Wikipedia

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Hi Stikipikiwiki. I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia. Your edits to date are all about Nofel Izz or his companies. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.

Please be sure to read WP:BLPCOI which is Wikipedia policy.

Information icon Hello, Stikipikiwiki. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, please:

  • avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your circle, your organization, its competitors, projects or products;
  • instead propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
  • when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
  • avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
  • exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you.

Comments and requests

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Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest;; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. While I am not asking you to disclose your identity (anonymity is strictly protecting by our WP:OUTING policy) would you please disclose if you have some connection or dispute with Nofel Izz or any of his companies? You can answer how ever you wish (giving personally identifying information or not), but if there is a connection, with please disclose it. After you respond (and you can just reply below), perhaps we can talk a bit about editing Wikipedia, to give you some more orientation to how this place works. Please reply here - I am watching this page. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 17:06, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jytdog, saw this after editing. No connections or interactions with Nofel Izz. I find it very strange that legitimate concerns regarding websites he has created are not mentioned on his page, despite talking about the website. There are a lot of "scam" concerns regarding JobsinDubai.com, this can be seen by a simple Google search. Wikipedia should always give balanced and fair prospectives showing all "sides". Are people who are removing all traces of these concerns being paid by JobsinDuabi or Mr Izz? Thanks! Stikipikiwiki (talk)

you are obviously angry at him because you have put yourself about an inch from being blocked. What is your beef with this site and Izz? Please explain. Jytdog (talk) 05:11, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Jytdog, you have not confirmed if you have a conflict of interest. I find your behaviour to remove all criticism of JobsinDubai.com and Nofel Izz biased and not how Wikipedia should operate; this is even more concerning as you purport yourself to be an Administrator of Wikipedia. Accordingly I am logging a Dispute Resolution matter for this to be looked into. (Stikipikiwiki (talk) 11:21, 21 March 2016 (UTC))[reply]
You have no basis for asking, as my edits do not violate Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. But no, i have no relationship of any kind with Izz or his companies. Now, please respond to me. What is driving your desire to add this unsourced and badly sourced content to these articles? I can help you work like a Wikipedian, but it would be helpful to understand where you are coming from. You don't have to tell me, of course, but you do have to edit according to the policies and guidelines. Jytdog (talk) 18:43, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The basis is clear, you have some sort of relationship with Izz and are removing all criticism of his websites. That is obvious. I want to prevent people from falling foul of a potential scam. However, you keep undoing proper edits. What is wrong with the last edit of a correctly cited news article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stikipikiwiki (talkcontribs) 23:35, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You don't understand Wikipedia's policies and guidelines so you have no basis for making this claim. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advocacy about anything - please see WP:SOAPBOX. If you want to add content to any article, it must have a source per WP:VERIFY. The source must be reliable per WP:RS. Jytdog (talk) 23:44, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed that you said "you purport yourself to be an Administrator ". I do not "purport" myself to be an admin, and I am not one. Jytdog (talk) 23:45, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I also just noticed that you actually asked me a question, which is great! Thanks for doing that. here is your last edit, and the source you used was this. That source is what we call a self published source - please read that link. SPSs are not consider to be reliable sources. That link is part of the guideline WP:RS that I have pointed you to, several times now. Jytdog (talk) 23:57, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw that you thanked me for the last edit, I hope this puts an end to the matter (Stikipikiwiki (talk) 00:34, 22 March 2016 (UTC))[reply]
You appear to have figured out what a reliable source is. I could have helped you but you have acted badly. Jytdog (talk) 00:39, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit War warning

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Nofel Izz and Jobs in Dubai. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Jytdog (talk) 01:16, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jytdog - There is never any benefit from war. If you simply undo all traces of legitimate criticisms of both Nofel Izz and JobsinDubai, then there seems that you may have some conflict of interest in the subject. If this is that case, you should state it now. Stikipikiwiki

Look, you can pay mind to how WIkipedia actually operates, or not. If you continue to edit war and add unsourced or improperly sourced content, you will be blocked, and then you will be banned. It is your choice. Jytdog (talk) 05:12, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Jytdog, you have not confirmed if you have a conflict of interest. I find your behaviour to remove all criticism of JobsinDubai.com and Nofel Izz biased and not how Wikipedia should operate; this is even more concerning as you purport yourself to be an Administrator of Wikipedia. Accordingly I am logging a Dispute Resolution matter for this to be looked into. (Stikipikiwiki (talk) 11:21, 21 March 2016 (UTC))[reply]

BLP warning

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Information icon Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Nofel Izz. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 01:18, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jytdog - As you've probably guessed, I'm new to this editing stuff. If you can help on how to add proper reference coding, I'm happy to take tips. If you mean factually the statements are not true, then weblinks to numerous complaints can be added. Surely these merit a mention on his page in the sections talking about JobsinDubai and also on the JobsinDuabi.com page!! Stikipikiwiki

This is your last warning. Read WP:BLP and WP:RS and follow them. The next time you add content like this again unsourced or sourced to a reference that absolutely fails WP:RS, you will face a block. We take WP:BLP very seriously. And if you keep going you will be indefinitely banned. Editing here is not hard, but you have to try to follow the policies and guidelines. Stop, read, and if you don't understand what you read, ask. Continuing to add the content, is the wrong approach. Jytdog (talk) 05:14, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Jytdog, you have not confirmed if you have a conflict of interest. I find your behaviour to remove all criticism of JobsinDubai.com and Nofel Izz biased and not how Wikipedia should operate; this is even more concerning as you purport yourself to be an Administrator of Wikipedia. Accordingly I am logging a Dispute Resolution matter for this to be looked into. (Stikipikiwiki (talk) 11:21, 21 March 2016 (UTC))[reply]

March 2016

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Information icon Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Jytdog. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 00:50, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Stikipikiwiki: I suggest you calm down. I had a look at the article. Jytdog removed some of your content because they were from questionable sources (see WP:QUESTIONABLE). I see that he has inserted the information in the article now since it is supported by a (somewhat)reliable source. In any case, that information cannot go into the lead of the article. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 00:54, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
How galant, nice to see chums come out of the woodwork. Jytdog often seems to be embroiled in Edit Wars judging from his talk page, I was simply advising him to find a better use of his time, instead of something that can get him banned. Anyway, the pages seem to have reached a consensus, so hopefully he won't keep undoing them. Thanks again and regards (Stikipikiwiki (talk) 01:01, 22 March 2016 (UTC))[reply]
There is no concensus at Nofel Izz, and please note that a much higher level of adherence to Wikipedia's policies applies there per WP:BLP.
As for Jobs in Dubai, it would be best to have a coherent presentation in a historical context. I'm almost certain I read that they eventually opened an office in Dubai. I suspect it was because of the criticisms, but I don't recall reading any references that said so. I'd expect that I overlooked something, or we didn't do enough research to find it. Given the prior problems with the article, I don't think we did very good research tracking down potential references. --Ronz (talk) 00:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]