User talk:Werdna648/Archive/Archive 02

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Userpage edit[edit]

Ah, forgot to note, I tidied your userboxes into 3 columns per userpage request. Ian13ID:540053 17:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Your new user page![edit]

Hi there! I've finished a design for your user page, and you can find it here. As I told you, there currently isn't much content at your user page, so I limited myself to beautify it with a color theme and a border work. I also took the liberty to change your user infobox color to match the new background. Last, I decided to remove the userboxes, since so many of them clash with the color theme; however, I've made an alternative version with them, that you can get here. If you want me to make any further changes or enhancements, please, just let me know. Hope you like it! =) Regards, - Phædriel tell me - 00:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Succesful RfA![edit]

Glass-Ball.jpg Thank you for your support during my RfA! The community has decided to make me an administrator, and there's work to be done. I look forward to seeing you around the project in the future, and if you see me do anything dumb, let me know right away! Regards, CHAIRBOY () 23:37, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

On adminship[edit]

Hi, I don't think have many good chances of passing an RFA yet. As far as I can see, the minimum de facto requirements are at least 3,000 edits and to have been here at least three months. Apart from the fact that your edit count is too low, you will have had to have excelled in some area, be that vandal fighting, writing articles (good ones) or anything else. If you want me to nominate you now, I can do it, except I think it would fail. I think you should get your edit count up - you have been here seven times longer than me and I have more edits than you :-P We'll see what happens though. Cheers. Latinus 11:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Do whatever you think is best - if you are (self-)nominated, I'll support you. Latinus 12:01, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree with what Latimnus say, too few edits for me to nominate depending on the time you were in wikipedia and less than 200 article edits is just too low, do more vandal fighting and write more articles. I may nominate you in another month or two when you fix the edit count higher, thanks --Jaranda wat's sup 01:33, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

An Esperanzial note[edit]

As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)

Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! --Celestianpower háblame 16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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Happy Birthday![edit]

Esperanza wishes you a Happy Birthday!!

Alphax τεχ 02:10, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Happy birthday from me too, and thanks for the beautiful flower! =) I'm glad you liked your new userpage design - enjoy it, and if I can help you in any way, don't hesitate to tell me. Cheers! - Phædriel tell me - 02:34, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Birthday cake.jpg
Werdna648/Archive/Archive 02 - HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

I hope you have a very joyous birthday today! Remember, another year older, another year wiser! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia, and from all of us at Esperanza, Happy Birthday!

- Pureblade | Θ

I just wanted to throw in my two cents, so here they are! Happy birthday! --Merovingian {T C E} 05:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Me too! Me too! Essjay TalkContact 10:10, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
(Editconflicted by Essjay...) Same here. Happy birthday from all your friends at Esperanza! Banez 10:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Have a great birthday.--Dakota ~ ε 17:03, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Hope it's a great birthday! -- Natalya 18:38, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Happy, happy birthday!--File Éireann 19:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Harry Potter Movies Portal[edit]

I think you would like to know that I have created a sub-portal to your Harry Potter Portal, the Harry Potter movies Portal, a portal for all the info about Harry Potter movies and its spin-offs (i.e. the video games and merchandise)

Harry Potter Portal under attack[edit]

Cyberjunkie has nominated for deletion the template that gives portals round corners. The same template the Harry Potter portal uses. He's trying to delete 3 templates I created. Please help maintain selective design amongst portals and support these three templates. Here's the link: Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#Portal:Box-header-round. They are listed sequentially. There isn't much time left, and it's lucky I found out at all. --Go for it! 03:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you're welcome to comment. However, please disregard Go for it!'s inflamtory remarks and, more so, please understand that your portal is absolutely not "under attack". Happy editing, --cj | talk 10:36, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Another Esperanzial note...[edit]

Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.

Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
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TA Spring Reversion[edit]

Sorry about that. It was my fault for not looking hard enough at the diff. Please accept my apologies.

The popup revision mechanism doesn't allow for leaving a meaningful comment, which was what I was using on recent changes patrol. Regardless, I should have been more careful on that particular edit. Thank you for referencing the change btw. joshbuddytalk 07:25, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I use popups, and you can actually set it up to prompt you for an edit summary. Just add the following line to your monobook.js:

Thanks, Werdna648T/C\@ 10:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Harry Potter[edit]

Just writing in to say that I think you've done a commendable job on the HP portal: given it's still under construction, it's pretty comprehensive and has a lot of info. Keep at it! :D -- Sarsaparilla39 02:19, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll second that. I just recently add Blood Purity links to every character that isn't Unknown, and I have to say, it's amazing how much fans of the books have compiled and in such an easy to digest format. Now it's largely waiting for more media to be released (last book, film versions) and streamlining what's already been produced. I haven't set up my UserPage yet, but please email me at for more talk on the Harry Potter project's progress (say that five times fast). Again, thanks for your efforts. Cybertooth85 18:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:User Anti-euro[edit]

I notice that you marked this page for speedy deletion with the reason "CSD T1 - see Template:Anti-euro". However, this template does not meet CSD:T1 as it is not divisive or an attack template. Indeed, the same speedy tag was already added and removed. You referred to Template:Anti-euro, which was deleted for being redundant to Template:User Anti-euro. I see no reason to delete this template. Thanks. Stifle 08:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


It wasn't the user hosting that hoaxes list who added Truthiness to that list: I don't know why that guy added it. Шизомби 09:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

The Jenova Project[edit]

I discovered that you'd lined up my Wikipedia article on The Jenova Project for speedy deletion. I have made my statements regarding on this matter in the Discussion page of my site. Please consider them. I personally believe the TJP article should be kept intact.

- Parasyte941 11:33, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

PS. Contrary to what you may have thought, I'm neither Jenova nor Parasyte of TJP. I'm just a big fan of the band. Honest! :D

re: MechZ[edit]

Response on my talk page. -- JLaTondre 13:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Another response. -- JLaTondre 19:54, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Deus Ex[edit]

Sorry about my flagrant violation of Wikipedia policy, I will make a more concentrated effort to avoid such errors in the future.


My Talk page[edit]

Dude, stop messing with my talk page. If you feel so strongly, contact an admin.—Preceding unsigned comment added by marcyu (talkcontribs)

I've already done that. The incident has been posted to the Administrator's noticeboard. Werdna648T/C\@ 08:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
You also vandalized my user page. That wasn't very nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by marcyu (talkcontribs)
Be careful what you call vandalism. See WP:VAND for a description of vandalism. Werdna648T/C\@ 08:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for reverting my user page. Much appreciated. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 23:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion[edit]

Regarding the article Image:Jeffries anglo concertina.jpg, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "Untagged image - 7 days passed.", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This article does not qualify for speedy deletion because It must be tagged for seven days, not just existent for seven days.. If you still want the article to be deleted, please use the WP:IFD process. Thanks! Stifle 14:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, my mistake. I read the tag as "it should be deleted on the 17th March", rather than "this image was tagged on the 17th of March". Haven't done WP:UI before so I just made a mistake with that and forgot to go back to rv. Thanks for letting me know that you've dealt with it. Werdna648T/C\@ 14:50, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2's revert "warning"[edit]

Its a fairly rare known bug that I'm working on that causes it to switch the last two contributors when someone edits the page when the bots doing its revert cycle, it seems to happen extremely rarely but I'm working on a fix, sorry about that -- Tawker 16:28, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the warm welcome, I'll read up on those things. - DarkOppressor


Hey there,

I took a look at your userpage there and I think you would almost certainly pass an RfA. What say you? Werdna648T/C\@ 09:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, at this point in time (being exactly 16 days from another nomination) I'd have to say no mostly due to the fact that the community usually frowns upon RfA's so close together. Maybe in a few weeks yes, but at this point I think I'd be shunned for too soon. -- Tawker 09:27, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Heh, obviously I didn't do my research. I'll keep my eye on you though, and feel free to increment that counter on your userpage of users who thought you were an administrator. Werdna648T/C\@ 09:29, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Lol, that thing is waaaayy out of date, it should be up to 150 or so now -- Tawker 09:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Collateral damage[edit]

Dear Werdna68, please check the definition of euphemism. The text you removed was simply an explanation of the meaning of euphemism in this context. In the military it's still a euphemism, i.e. a "nicer" way of saying that you unfortunately have hit people or property that you didn't intend to hit. However, when the term "collateral damage" is used in official statements directed to the general public, it can definitely be regarded as doublespeak, as most civilians don't know exactly what "collateral damage" means. As for "regarded by many" being weasel words because I haven't added a link or a quotation, that's silly, as most people definitely regard "collateral damage" as a form of doublespeak. It's like saying that a Wikipedia article stating that "Stalin was regarded by many to be a tyrant" must be rephrased unless this is proved by links and quotations.

By the way, you have now changed the text to say that the "collateral damage" "can refer to friendly fire or the destruction of civilians and their property", thus indicating that there can be situations when it doesn't refer to this. However, as far as I know that's the only meaning of "collateral damage". Best regards. Thomas Blomberg 18:36, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, AFAIK, the statement "Stalin was regarded by many to be a tyrant" would probably be removed as POV and weasel-worded. You need to let the facts speak for themselves, rather than speaking for them. For further explanation, please see WP:WEASEL and WP:APT. Secondly, in the statement "collateral damage can refer to friendly fire or the destruction of civilians and their property" was intended to say that it means either friendly fire or the destruction of civilians and their property, but not both. Feel free to reword this as you see fit. In either case, weasel-words need to be either reworded to include a source or removed entirely - you need to either explain who believes that it's doublespeak (I don't!), showing survey results, authoritative quotes, et cetera, or rephrase the sentence to remove that assertation. Werdna648T/C\@ 04:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

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RfA thanks![edit]

WikiThanks.png Hi Andrew! Thank you for supporting my RfA. Thanks to you, the confusion is now less - it passed at 105/1/0 (putting me in WP:100 - I'm delighted and surprised!) and making me the admin you already thought I was! :o) I'm always happy to help out, so if you need anything, please drop me a line. Cheers! ➨ REDVERS 20:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiDEFCON descriptions[edit]

Hi! I saw you add the WikiDEFCON level descriptions to the visible part of the {{Wdefcon}} page. I have however decided to remove them. The template itself has gone through one TfD already and is constantly being accused of provoking vandals (that's why less conspicuous versions were created). A thing you may not be aware of is that the most prominent vandals are constantly looking for ways to (legitimately) raise the level to 1 (to see those "drastic actions" finally). That said, it's better not to educate more vandals by clearly expressing the descriptions - let's make it at least a bit harder for them and keep it in comments. Okay, enough of this rant. I hope you'll understand. Cheers and happy Wikiing! Misza13 T C 20:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1[edit]

Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience:
"No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Note from the editor
Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!
  1. Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before.
  2. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log.
  3. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time.
  4. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified.
  5. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community.
  6. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially.
  7. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on.
  8. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen.
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

User talk:[edit]

If I get time, I'll contact the school next time (the contact address isn't very obvious, incidenetally; perhaps it should be made clearer. There's little point now, as the block's almost up. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

.NET Bot Framework[edit]

Hi, thanks for the email, unfortunately the zip archive seems to be corrupted, or possibly the password protection is not compatible with winrar or the default Windows XP zip program. Martin 12:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


Hi Werdna, thanks for making a contribution to this proposed policy. I'd be interested to hear more of your views on it on its talk page, whenever you have a spare moment. As I think you know its primary goal is to cut out a lot of back-biting and flaming on (usually) doomed AfDs. I have to say it was formed in mind with a bit more controversy than the debate you highlighted, that displayed the warning signs but never really went the distance. I think it's important not to give the impression that this policy would be used hastily, and as such I hope you don't mind that I've removed your addition. I do think including debates where the policy could work (I have highlighted a few when commenting on AfDs) is a great idea and encourage you to include more examples, ideally current ones. Cheers! Deizio 14:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I guess the link didn't really do the situation justice. My user[talk] page got vandalised about 4 times in the debate, it escalated to edit-warring over the AfD template with 3 established users and about 6 meatpuppets, sneaky talkpage-vandalism (changing all the comments to appear to come from me), and a recreated page deleted a bit later with a result of something like 15-2 to delete. In any case, I'll keep an eye out for better examples of debates where this policy might apply. Werdna648T/C\@ 00:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


You asked (via an IRC memo (my first ever, wow)) me to look at your monobook.js file, but I don't see anything to comment on there. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


A watered-down version of the proposed policy against censorship is now open for voting. Will you kindly review the policy and make your opinions known? Thank you very much. Loom91 12:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Good job[edit]

You are doing a great job with trying to settle disputes over at Daniel Brandt. Its a tough one as people have strong emotions, and finding a happy neutral ground is difficult. I tried it for ages, but felt the wrath of User:Antaeus Feldspar for doing it. Its very difficult to try to maintain peace over such a topic.

Peace is always better than fighting. I fixed up his user page so that it's not objectionable anymore. I'm sure there's no need to totally delete a user page. I am sure that that is a happy compromise. The protection of the miscellany for deletion page though was very immature, and I question why User:Jayjg would have done that. I am pretty sure that the page wasn't vandalised or anything, so there was really no need for it, and it stifles discussion to do so.

Anyway, well, I am glad that Wikipedia has people like you in there. People who are more interested in making others happy than serving their own interests. I hope that you don't lose your faith. 16:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Please don't respond to any more of Brandt's comments on his AfD (as reasonable as you are being). He's just baiting everyone. ~MDD4696 03:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Werdna. I am glad that you registered an account on (link removed). I think that you have shown yourself to be a good person who is there to help others and resolve arguments. I am sure that you will be willing to see both sides of an argument. I do apologise that they tend to assume bad faith a lot over there, but I am convinced that you are one of the good guys. But please, when posting there, remember that the focus is criticism of Wikipedia. If you think that Wikipedia is perfect, you shouldn't be posting. However, I think that it is quite certain that you can see holes in Wikipedia. Recognise the holes every so often, and you will be warmly welcomed. Thanks again. Oh, my username over there is Blissyu2. I got banned on Wikipedia for making a non-existent legal threat after making 70 edits as User:Internodeuser (the actual legal threat was to me, not by me, but Arb Com got confused). I then edited as User:Zordrac for 3 months with wholly productive edits, no warnings, no problems, with over 4,500 edits, and they banned me as a sock puppet. Just so you know the story there. I see big problems with Wikipedia, but also lots of good. My personal opinion is that Wikipedia should stop aiming to be an encyclopaedia, and instead work towards being a valuable resource. Anyway, bye now. 06:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Question about permanent blocks[edit]

Preamble: I'm making this inquiry here because it isn't really relevant to WP:ANI. I'm having trouble understanding your approach to permanent blocks. ROGNNTUDJUU! has 150 or so productive edits and Daniel Brandt has almost none. Brandt has engaged in large scale harassement and privacy violations and ROGNNTUDJUU! has only engaged in personal attacks, wikilawyering and incivility. You don't want to permanently ban Brandt but you have no hesitation in banning ROGNNTUDJUU!. What am I missing here? JoshuaZ 14:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2[edit]

The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
"Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!
  1. The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details.
  2. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page.
  3. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly.
A plea from the editor...
The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there.
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Archive bot[edit]

OK, I've put the template on my talk page and directed it to use this archive page. There's plenty of stuff over 7 days old for it to move – Gurch 19:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... looks like it archived the same 9 sections again, don't know why. Feel free to try again – Gurch 14:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Template:AR report[edit]

Hello there, mate. Thanks a million for writing this template! My suggestion is that we change it to be like Wikipedia:Abuse reports/Example of case in contact, as I think that that layout works best, and as hoping for your thoughts on the matter. You can see an idea of what that might look like at User:Snoutwood/AR report. Let me know what you think. Cheers! Snoutwood (tóg) 22:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Feel free. I was going to do that, but didn't have the energy at 12:30 in the morning. You can change the template as you see fit - it _is_ a wiki. Werdna648T/C\@ 22:27, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Wicked. I'll do it now. Snoutwood (tóg) 22:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Glad you like it! I'm working on the documentation now. Snoutwood (tóg) 22:53, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

I've decided, after much thought, to withdraw my Request for adminship, due to concerns over my stupidity at HolyRomanEmperor's RfA. I'd like to thank those who supported me for their trust and support, regardless of one stupid incident, and those who opposed me and voted neutral for their feedback and valid concerns. I don't intend on considering renominations until late June to early July. Werdna648T/C\@ 14:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Sad to see you have to withdraw, it's pretty sad when people can't understand simple mistakes, you will make a good admin though, I am sure of it. --NigelJ talk 22:37, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Yep, I hope you're not feeling overly stressed about it. I know that that type of feedback can be hard to take. Do your best to honestly assess the comments people have made, see if there's anything you can improve on and let the rest go. It may help to stop and think before any edit that might be misunderstood and see if you can find a way to reword it or remove any part that might be rude, etc. I find myself doing that once in a while and the response is usually much more positive. Just wanted to add my support, and I think you'll be just fine next time. - Taxman Talk 20:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)