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10:35, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Helicopter

Your repeated addition here is a problem. The sources you are adding might be sufficient to support a claim that a Slovenian inventor was one of those who patented another early helicopter design. However it is not enough to support a claim that this was an influence on the F 61. It's certainly not enough to justify placement in the article's lead.

I'm having trouble reading the sources, owing to the language issue. However I can see the following problems:

There is no indication that Focke was aware of this patent, or influenced by it.
Focke was influenced by Cierva's work on autogyros. In particular the cyclic pitch control through the rotor head. There is no indication of any such mechanism in the Slokar design.

Andy Dingley (talk) 16:00, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am not Historician and specially I am not specialised in the field of history of Helicopter development and inventing but I find this information in book of Sandi Sitar (1987) Sto slovenskih znanstvenikov/Hundred Slovenian Scientist's and Darinka Kladnik (2008). Zgodovina letalstva na Slovenskem-od začetkov do današnjih dni/History of Aviation in Slovenia-from the begining untill today. ZIP-Zavod za intelektualno produkcijo. str. 325. COBISS 242534912. ISBN 978-961-91035-6-2. Here is the part where talking about Anton Kuhelj who design "KS-1 Janez" airplane and others from the early of 20. century. And Anton Kuhelj says in 1937 that Focke based also on Slokar's patent.

Yes I know that language is problem. I should learn english to, to understand what some others say But this (that source is not in english) does not mean that this does not happend!

I suggest that some specialists make some study about this patent and try to find out what is truth.

Miran Erič alias Wikifatpac