User talk:Ximeesc

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ava (May 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Devonian Wombat was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:24, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ximeesc! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:24, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ava

Help desk volunteer here. I'm going to help you with Ava. For the history section:

In October 2016, Ava won the audience favorite award at the Wall Street Journal's WSJDLive annual global technology conference.^[1]

Wait until it's ready before resubmitting. I was just going to remove Engadget but you saw that also. I'd remove the Prodigium and YouTube sources. They are primary sources, not so good here. It also needs some minor formatting changes and grammar fixes, but I'll wait until you are done so we don't have an edit conflict. And FYI - every single sentence not in the lead must be sourced. If you can't source it, take it out. TechnoTalk (talk) 23:28, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Ava, App for Hearing-Impaired, Is WSJDLive Audience Favorite". Silicon Valley Business Journal. October 26, 2016. Retrieved May 23, 2022.

It's important to distinguish between sources that substantiate the info, and sources that show notability. This [[1]] is a blog, which doesn't help for notability, but does for sourcing info. Forbes contributors are similar. They don't help show notability, since they are not Forbes' journalists, but can be used to source info. This will be important when you have to have enough sources to show notability before resubmitting. TechnoTalk (talk) 23:37, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your fast reply and clear communication. I have made the changes you pointed out. If you could help me with the grammar and formatting issues and any other reference problem I should look out for I would greatly appreciate it. Ximeesc (talk) 23:55, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the Engadget article was about a different app. I didn't realize Transcence was an old name for Ava. I'd add Engadget back, since the media coverage helps show notability, and mention the name change in the article, sourced with this [2]]. TechnoTalk (talk) 23:58, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I asked you to wait until the draft was ready before resubmitting. You forced me to race through it to try to clean it up before it was declined again. Each decline makes it harder to get approved. Your anxiousness suggests you have a conflict of interest. Please see Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and disclose your COI if you have one. TechnoTalk (talk) 01:12, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I jumped the gun in resubmitting. It was because I didn't know how long it would take for someone to answer me on the Help Desk and I thought my editing was sufficient for resubmitting. I did it before I saw your message. You were helping and i'm sorry my lack of experience on wikipedia forced you race through it. I also didn't know that each decline makes it harder to get approved. I wanted to thank you again and you made the article look great! Ximeesc (talk) 15:14, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Ava has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Ava. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 17:54, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ava (app) (August 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Largely the sources are not independent as they rely on what the company says about itself. The Wall Street Journal also is not independent because WSJDLive is an event they hold. Other sources are brief mentions such as the New York Times article. The Forbes article is not a reliable source because it was written by a contributor rather than staff (see WP:FORBESCON).

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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S0091 (talk) 17:45, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Ava (app)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:02, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Ava (app)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:52, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[wsj1-1] "Ava, App for Hearing-Impaired, Is WSJDLive Audience Favorite". Silicon Valley Business Journal. October 26, 2016. Retrieved May 23, 2022.

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