Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Albania

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Albania

Denis Balla

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 80 minutes in Albania’s highest league. Continued in the semi-pro second tier after that. Searching for sources, I exclusively find databases and trivial mentions, as well as several unrelated namesakes. Geschichte (talk) 05:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Geri Selita

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 14 matches in Albania’s highest league. Currently active in the semi-pro second tier; however, I am simply not able to find a single source with something resembling significant coverage. This routine/trivial mention was the best I could find. What do you think? Geschichte (talk) 05:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: All I found were a few more transactional announcements (1, 2), but nothing substantial. Fails GNG and SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 17:52, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stiven Puci

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Short career in Albania’s highest league, 4 minutes for Luftetari, then a loan, then 18 more games. I found very few sources, this is clearly not in-depth, and probably not this one either. Therefore I think he fails WP:GNGand WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 07:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Albi Koldashi

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5 games in Albania’s highest tier, continued for a few years in a lower league. The current source #2 is just a squad listing and not significant. The only other source I could find was this. While that one is decent, I still think he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 07:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination. Regardless of whether it is significant or not, just adding one source is not sufficient. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Public image of Mother Teresa

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Started as a WP:POVFORK [1] and since then it has changed quite a bit but it never really improved. This article is not about her public image, which is overwhelmingly positive, (and not a notable topic which does not pass WP:GNG), it is about certain criticisms of her. For some reason the article got moved [2]. Criticism should be in the main article and this POVFORK should be removed. Polygnotus (talk) 19:07, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I'm COI on this because 1.) a family friend ran some of Mother Teresa's US PR stuff and 2.) Mother Teresa holds special, positive importance in a private element of my life. However, I'm of the opinion that this article, while possibly a bit OR-heavy, strikes me as generally neutral and notable. I can elaborate, but I feel my COI precludes me from seriously inserting myself any further here. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pbritti: COI users are allowed to have an opinion (even those who disagree with me

). See WP:COIEDIT and WP:COIADVICE. Do you know any reliable sources that are about her public image and not her as a person? Do you think it is a good idea that all criticism was removed from the article about her and moved to this, far more obscure, article? And that, possibly as a result of the move from Criticism of... to Public image of..., the criticism got hidden even further down the page? Polygnotus (talk) 02:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your encouragement to discussion! Perusing JSTOR, I'm finding some pieces like this. Generally, they come from the late 1990s and are heaving on the sociology (not necessarily bad, especially in a subjective subject). I have objections over centering criticisms like Hitchens's on her biographical article—one of a few significant marks against his legacy—but generally agree that we need to exercise caution in any diminishment of sustained and impactful criticism. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:15, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is interesting to see how some people are overly cautious with anything approaching COI while others... are not. ;-) Of course, the criticism comes not just from Hitchens. People like Aroup Chatterjee and Tariq Ali and Mihir Bose and even people who worked for her like Hemley Gonzalez and Susan Shields et cetera have famously criticized her work. There are a lot of very important people who said very positive things about her; let's be fair and balance that out with some of the criticism. MLK jr got a criticism section. You can probably write a criticism section for Ghandi. I am quoting myself, and when I wrote that the Mother Teresa article still had a criticism section. No matter what happens here, the criticism will return anyway. It never left, despite attempts to hide it. Polygnotus (talk) 02:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pbritti: sorry I forgot to ping. Polygnotus (talk) 02:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Critics say grossly inadequate medical care was given to the sick and dying. Syringes were reused without sterilisation, pain relief was non-existent or negligible, and conditions were unhygienic. Meanwhile, Mother Teresa spent much of her time travelling around the world in a private plane to meet political leaders. -- The Guardian. Polygnotus (talk) 03:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at WP:SIZESPLIT, over 9000 words means "Probably should be divided or trimmed". The main article currently got only 5000 words. I flipped it around. If it would be fair then that shouldn't matter, right? But it does cause it isn't.

Finally, how competent are the sisters at managing pain? On a short visit, I could not judge the power of the spiritual approach, but I was disturbed to learn the formulary includes no strong analgesics. Along with the neglect of diagnosis, the lack of good analgesia marks Mother Teresa's approach as clearly separate from the hospice movement. I know which I prefer.' Robin Fox, editor of The Lancet from 1990 to 1995. PMID: 7818649 DOI: 10.1016/s0140-6736(94)92353-1 Polygnotus (talk) 09:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Polygnotus: I still feel too COI to formally !vote, but you've convinced me. I now favor deletion. Thanks for your comments. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The article was previously nominated for deletion on August 2023. The article's current title came as a result of that discussion. I was the one who removed the criticism section but I retained the criticism against her since it would be a violation of NPOV to remove it. You do not need such a section to include criticism about a person. The NPOV policy discourages such sections anyway. StephenMacky1 (talk) 12:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, or merge - clear WP:POVFORK, and the lack of criticism in the main article is now notable by its absence. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 11:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sadush Danaj

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Sources are profile and no significant coverages. Xegma(talk) 07:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I honestly have no idea what the coverage is like in Albania and for the clubs he played for, there are two in the list that are a fair size and get good support. If someone does build a decent article with sources ping me please. Govvy (talk) 21:35, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andrea Kule

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8 games in Albania’s highest league, continued in the semi-pro second tier, did get 4 more games on the top level. With sources not being better than this, this or this, I don't think it meets WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. What do you think? Geschichte (talk) 08:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ambroz Kapaklija

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Very short football career, so looks to fail WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, though I did find this. Geschichte (talk) 20:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 05:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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