Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/California State Route 94/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 15:56, 26 August 2016 [1].
- Nominator(s): Rschen7754 00:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
After another long hiatus from FAC, I am nominating this article about an east–west freeway in metro San Diego. Rschen7754 00:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Kevon kevono
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- Support I now pass this article.
- Support - I reviewed this article at ACR and feel that it meets the FA criteria. I also conducted an image review at the ACR. Dough4872 01:28, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Source review—the two California Numbered Exit Uniform System citations in the last footnote have ISO-style publication dates, while the rest of the article's footnotes uniformly use MDY format. You will want to change those over. Otherwise, all of the citations are formatted fairly consistently, and they're all citing reliable sources. The following aren't deal breakers, but I'm including them as a little extra something to give the cites that last bit of polish:
- You may want to see if the California Highways and Public Works journal has either an ISSN or OCLC to include. If any of the cited paper maps have OCLC numbers, it would be nice to see those appear as well, even if there is a scanned copy online.
- If it were me, I'd move the "Streets and Highway Code" part of the citation into
|work= Streets and Highway Code
and leave the section number alone as the title.- Fixed the publication dates, found the OCLC for CHPW and some of the maps. I'll look at the rest tomorrow. --Rschen7754 06:30, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- All done. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed the publication dates, found the OCLC for CHPW and some of the maps. I'll look at the rest tomorrow. --Rschen7754 06:30, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Prose review:
- freeway may warrant a link on first usage for the non-American readers. YMMV.
- Done. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you spell out the full name for Caltrans on the first usage in the lead. I know what it means, but others won't.
- Done. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- "and west of SR 188 is part of the National Highway System" needs a subject slotted into that clause someplace to make it flow better with the rest of the compound/complex sentence.
- Done. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- freeway may warrant a link on first usage for the non-American readers. YMMV.
- "SR 94 was built along the routing of an old stagecoach road that took two days to travel to East County in the 19th century". The road itself took two days to travel? I think you mean that travelers using the road took two days. Also, is "East County" a proper name in this case?
- Done. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- In that first history subsection, things flip between "Campo Road" and "Campo road". I'm going to assume that one version isn't correct there.
- I'm going off the capitalization found in the sources. While it's highly probable that they are the same, I'm playing on the safe side (in the event that "Campo Road" and "Campo road", or the road to Campo aren't the same). I can fix it if you think that's too cautious. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- "In June 1953, the Commission approved an eight-lane freeway for Route 94 from Home Avenue in San Diego to Palm Avenue around La Mesa;[33] The local Board of Education also gave their approval, which was required because the freeway would be built on land that was for a proposed school." Either that semicolon needs to be changed to a period (preferred) or the capital letter after it needs to be dropped to lowercase.
- Done. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- "state senator Fred Kraft criticized" since that's a title preceding his name, it should be capitalized. Later on in that same sentence, "long-term" should not be hyphenated.
- Done. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- "metal weakened-plane joints" I think the hyphenation here looks wrong; I parse it in a way that should read "metal-weakened plane joints".
- Done. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- "lanes in between" the "in" there isn't needed.
- Done. --Rschen7754 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
All in all, just a few minor changes noted so far that should be easily fixed before I formally support. Imzadi 1979 → 06:17, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I think you might be too cautious, but I understand the idea. It just looks odd to have the two flipping back and forth. Imzadi 1979 → 06:35, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Support—based on my review above. Imzadi 1979 → 06:35, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Coord comment -- About ready to promote this but I always like to see a review from someone outside their comfort zone with the subject, to help ensure comprehensibility for the lay reader; Cas, you drew the short straw in my mind's lottery, would you have time for a quick read? Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:23, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok will do. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:51, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Some queries...
In lead, "wagon road" redirects to wagon train...is that right?- It redirects to the general concept, so I think it's okay. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
can "state highway system" link to somewhere? Should it be a stub as some other states have articles....- Linked to the California one. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'd put the length in the lead, possibly in the first one or two sentences.- Done. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
can we link "interchange"?- Done. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
is there an article on downtown San Diego?- Added. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
440 what? vehicles?- Done. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
SR 94 was built along the routing of an old stagecoach road that took travelers two days to reach East County in the 19th century- odd construction...I'd say "a road takes travellers" but wouldn't use time like that...but use it with the people as the agent" the travellers took two days to go down the road" or something...- Shuffled it around again. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In 1927, the Potrero bridge was replaced, after a storm washed out the bridge.- try and remove one the "bridge" words in the sentence.- Done. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"large haulers" - can be rewritten to dequote, surely...- Done. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Looks reasonably comprehensive - any notable accidents taken place on the road?- Not that would be considered notable, i.e. received a lot of news coverage or closed the road for days. Some of the minor ones are alluded to in other parts of the history. --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The prose is clear enough and good enough to not make me think about it too much while reading (a good sign). Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- @Casliber: All done, and thanks! --Rschen7754 16:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, I support this on comprehensiveness and prose. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 15:56, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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