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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot (talk) 3:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC) [1].
Edgar Speyer[edit]
Review section[edit]
I am nominating this featured article for review because it may have been well-researched & comprehensive when promoted back in 2009, but it is not now due to the publication of newer, high quality sources like the 2013 biography by Lentin, which is barely cited in the article. An example of lack of comprehensiveness is the non-mention of the subject's role in the Cuban tobacco industry, covered in Liebmann 2015. Instead, there is currently an overreliance on press sources. (t · c) buidhe 18:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- An odd FAC; it was rare then for Raul to promote, so it looks like both Karanacs and I may have recused, and Mattisse was in there. Johnbod ?? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I just supported on one point in 2009, & haven't looked at it since. Between the trains and classical music crowds you might find interested editors. Not me I'm afraid. Johnbod (talk) 18:45, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Trainsandotherthings and Mackensen: SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:57, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm afraid there's nothing I can help with here. The issues cited by buidhe in opening the FAR require print sources which I do not have access to. I almost exclusively stick to North American topics anyhow. I don't like declining a request to help out somewhere, but unfortunately I cannot assist with this FAR. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 04:44, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Trainsandotherthings and Mackensen: SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:57, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I just supported on one point in 2009, & haven't looked at it since. Between the trains and classical music crowds you might find interested editors. Not me I'm afraid. Johnbod (talk) 18:45, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I've been meaning for a very long time to give this article an update since Anthony published his book. We corresponded before its publication and he was kind enough to send me a signed copy and thank me in the acknowledgments. He also does cite this article in the secondary sources section of the book.--DavidCane (talk) 22:01, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- DavidCane, do you intend to update this during this FAR? Or should we delist it and it can be updated outside of this process? Nikkimaria (talk) 15:15, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The request for a review is based on needing sources updating. I'm happy to do that but I'll have to re-read Antony Lenton's book and see if I can find a copy of the Liebmann book. Since there aren't any other reasons for review given, does the FAR need to remain open?--DavidCane (talk) 18:56, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- We don't usually close a FAR until/unless issues are addressed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, if you want to keep it open. I'll start on an update.--DavidCane (talk) 22:47, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @DavidCane: Are you still intending to work on this? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:39, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I am. Work is hectic at the moment, but I've got a copy in my sandbox which I'll be making changes. From 1 May I have a break, so hope to get it done then.--DavidCane (talk) 23:37, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Hold in FAR, DavidCane please keep this page updated as you start work in May. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:45, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- DavidCane made some edits in his sandbox in early May but these did not address the issues that led to the FAR being opened, and ceased nearly 3 weeks ago. (t · c) buidhe 15:44, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Hold in FAR, DavidCane please keep this page updated as you start work in May. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:45, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I am. Work is hectic at the moment, but I've got a copy in my sandbox which I'll be making changes. From 1 May I have a break, so hope to get it done then.--DavidCane (talk) 23:37, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @DavidCane: Are you still intending to work on this? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:39, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, if you want to keep it open. I'll start on an update.--DavidCane (talk) 22:47, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- We don't usually close a FAR until/unless issues are addressed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The request for a review is based on needing sources updating. I'm happy to do that but I'll have to re-read Antony Lenton's book and see if I can find a copy of the Liebmann book. Since there aren't any other reasons for review given, does the FAR need to remain open?--DavidCane (talk) 18:56, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- DavidCane, do you intend to update this during this FAR? Or should we delist it and it can be updated outside of this process? Nikkimaria (talk) 15:15, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @DavidCane: ? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:43, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
FARC section[edit]
- Issues raised in the review section include sourcing and comprehensiveness. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:51, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist No edits since March. Editors above who are interested can work on the article and renominate it to FAC when it is ready. Z1720 (talk) 02:13, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist per above (t · c) buidhe 03:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist, as it has been stalled out for a couple months now. Hog Farm Talk 23:01, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This removal candidate has been delisted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please leave the {{featured article review}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.