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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 04:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:AFY (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete. Unused. It was a 'succession box' on 1980 African Footballer of the Year through 2006 African Footballer of the Year, that were merged into African Footballer of the YearNabla 22:59, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 04:50, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Musical 3 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is unused, and is an overly-specific infobox, permitting the inclusion of only one instance of the production. Delete —  MusicMaker 22:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Rugby Union templates

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The result of the debate was keep all. IronGargoyle 20:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ACTru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:BLUru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:FORru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:CHEru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:CRUru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:HIGru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:HURru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:LIOru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:CATru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:QLDru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:SHAru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:STOru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:NSWru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:ReverseBLUru (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

All consist of only a single wikilink. Subst and delete all. There are other templates along the same lines, but with flags - for example Template:CHIru (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Templates). I'm unsure about what do to with these, hence I have not nominated those here. Mike Peel 21:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Highly useful on rugby-related articles, where quite often several such templates (as well as several similar field-position-related templates) ar needed in any given section of text. Of great use to editors - and yes, they are normally used subst'ed. These serve just as much purpose as the tiny image-link flag icon templates, and are just as useful, but any suggestion of deleting them would be soundly rebuffed. Grutness...wha? 00:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very Strong Keep - These templates are very useful and used in Super Rugby related articles info-boxes and please see the 2007 Super 14 article to see how much it is used and the the PfD tag is making the article look ugly..These template are very important as Grutness has pointed out and I'm not sure why its wikilinks isn't working but those templates are very important for our project..--Cometstyles 12:18, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Why are these used instead of plain text? The cut-down in length and time is considerably small. --Teggles 10:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete, unused and user request. Nabla 23:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ColumnVector2 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Unused, and no apparent use. DeleteMike Peel 20:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(One, two, Charlotte's comin' for you) 03:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Notred (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

A cute template, which only shows a link to an article if the article exists. However, it's a bad idea - red links show that a page is wanted, both to people reading the article that the red link is in and to people doing Wikipedia:Most wanted articles (see also Wikipedia:Red link). As such, Delete Mike Peel 19:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another example of good usage is a new actor with a small career. Even an experienced editor can't predict if he or she will gain bigger roles in the future and get an article of it's own. Maybe a longer explanation in the template itself would do the trick. --Steinninn 02:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But certainly there will still exist search engines in the future. Note that I understand (or I think I do) the good uses you mention. But almost any word has the potential to be a future article, so this template has the potential to be (ab)used wildly. - Nabla 03:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete before we have thousands of those aroud, making the wiki even less wiki (i.e. user friendly). If you're an inexperienced edit you won't know this, if you are an experienced editor you are certainly able to decide to link or not to link - Nabla 23:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I hate redlinks as much as the next guy, but this is not the solution. Shalom Hello 05:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, for some things this really is a better solution. For example in the wiktionary, this is used for Latin and Icelandic declension tables, a wonderful way to solve that you can link to some noun forms (most often genitive or nominative plural) and not link to those for whom an article does not exist. I.e. here and here. This is absolutely NOT an easy solution for red links, mind you! --BiT 22:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as per Steinninn above. --Kralizec! (talk) 20:08, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Delete. Adding a bit of aesthetic nonsense that will confuse editors and discourage the creation of new articles sounds like a very bad idea to me. IronGargoyle 20:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, Redlinks are good. If an article doesn't exist, we want to encourage its creation. If we don't want it to exist, don't confuse things with a template. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 03:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. If an article shouldn't be created, don't link it and/or remove any existing links to it. Otherwise, let people know that the article needs to be created. I think Nabla's point about usability is an important one. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 03:23, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Newpoke (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

It is not used, and it is redundant with {{Future game}}. — Brandon Dilbeck 19:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was The result of the debate was speedy delete. An admin handled the deletion, not me. --Evilclown93(talk) 00:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Nosubst (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Presumably analogous to doing {{subst:template}}. Unused. I can't imagine any real use for it - can anyone else think of any? Delete. Mike Peel 19:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)-->[reply]

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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(One, two, Charlotte's comin' for you) 03:32, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Wikilink (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Deprecated template, not used on any article page. Made redundant by Mediawiki. Subst. remaining usages and deleteMike Peel 17:56, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Family Guy episodes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete Per two discussions. These are talk-pages of two persons, one of them created the template, and one of them tell why it shouldn't exist, and I agree with the one that says the template shouldn't exist. TheBlazikenMaster 16:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Past (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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Several disambiguation templates

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The result of the debate was delete all but {{Dis}}. IronGargoyle 19:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Several disambiguation templates that are currently not in use, or are only used on one page:

It seems to be consensus among dab editors to only use one of the very few dab templates that already exist (see MOS:DAB#The disambig notice). These here are not listed in the MOS, and they also aren't in use (very much), so they might as well get deleted. – sgeureka tc 10:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The first one, {{Dis}}, is meant to be substed to seed a new disambiguation page, so it wouldn't appear to be in much use, but might be, and it isn't contrary to the MOS. I'd leave it; the rest could be deleted. -- JHunterJ 11:10, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
{{Disambig-Film}}, {{Disambig-television}}, {{Forsong}} are orphans. {{Town-island}} and {{Songdis}} are used once. Delete. No opinion on {{Dis}}, I don't know if some people use it. -- lucasbfr talk 12:46, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete (weak delete {{Dis}}) as above. No particular point or use in these. --Piet Delport 15:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I created the television and film ones as possible potentially useful templates, but I was mistaken, and as such is the evidence that they have not been used, those two, you are most welcome to delete. --Sukh17 TCE 17:59, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all except first The first template in question is a handy way to save time while making a disambugiation page, so I don't see the template as harmful in any way. The second and the third template won't really server any specific purpose, as the normal disambugiation tag does the same job for film/television related aswell, and these two templates are rarely used. The last three templates serve no specific purpose, and Template:For plus Template:Two other uses could be used in place of those templates aswell. ~Iceshark7 17:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(One, two, Charlotte's comin' for you) 03:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Types of nebula (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 06:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RugbyleagueWikiproject (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is now orphaned, due to it being replaced by this template {{WikiProject Rugby league}}, so I request deletion so it is never used again. SpecialWindler 21:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 10:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. I agree with Tony and Wibbble. This violates WP:AGF, and frankly anybody that is going to be adding poor quality edits probably won't be reading the talk page either (but then maybe I should assume good faith... hmmm...) IronGargoyle 19:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fandom (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Simply a self-reference template (WP:ASR). We don't require perfect spelling or grammar -- maybe it's because this is an international project, or simply because this is a wiki (anybody can fix a mistake). Sourcing bit also duplicates "Content that violates any copyright will be deleted. Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL" from the edit screen -- if people ignore that, then they're unlikely to heed a template as obtrusive as that. Matthew 08:15, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong keep: It has received approval here, and will encourage users - but mainly anons - to make better contributions to articles in the wake of their subject's broadcast. Too many editors are spending time reverting these edits, rather than making valuble additions themselves.--Rambutan (talk) 08:19, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    it received "approval" from a person, err: lawl. You crack me up to be honest, with your "Somebody agrees with me, therefore I have consensus" comments! Heh. Matthew 08:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh delete. It pollutes the articles unnecessarily during the few hours after an episode is broadcast when everybody with a computer comes to the article and starts typing rubbish in. I don't think it's going to stop them. --Tony Sidaway 08:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, aside from the bad faith that this ridiculous notice is, this user needs to learn that approval does not equal consensus. One person siding with you doesn't justify your actions when five other people have told you that you have WP:OWN issues with these pages. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 09:03, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I really hope this article template was meant for the article-talkpages, and not the articles themselves. Sticking maintenance templates on top of articles is exaggerated already, making articles look even more amateurish than what they really are. But even if it was meant for talkpages, the entire content is pretty useless. The admonishments of check your spelling, no original research, and verifiability apply to all articles in general, and there is nothing unusual about this class of article. Delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    To clarify, he wants this in the article. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 09:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh dear... After looking at the discussion preceding the implementation of the template I am even more convinced that this thing should never have been created. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and permit usage on talk pages only, not in articles. It really states the obvious regarding MoS, and pollutes the article page as others have noted, but there's no issue with "polluting" talk pages IMO. Shalom Hello 22:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, but only if restricted to talk pages. A template as obtrusive and bad-faith as this one doesn't belong in the article namespace. It probably wouldn't be very useful on talk pages either, but it doesn't do any real harm to allow it there. Terraxos 04:03, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as it fails at WP:AGF and WP:SELF. It's also hugely patronising to editors who will read and take wikipedia seriously, while at the same time useless for deterring people who will just click and edit without looking twice. I think it's more likely to put the good editors off improving articles, leaving more work for those who'll have to clean the articles up. Wibbble 20:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete; it's very Newbiting, and anyway, surely one of the main things about Wikipedia is Be Bold; if you make a mistake, someone else will be happy to fix it. Laïka 19:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Delete'Delete'Delete'Delete'Delete'Delete'Delete'DeleteIt is rude and unnescessaryAlanD 19:24, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per Wibbble above. --Kralizec! (talk) 19:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is absurd. A template that seriously suggests that somehow "fans" are more prone to spelling and grammar mistakes when writing about television episodes is nothing short of offensive and should have been deleted on the spot. I'm deeply ashamed that any editor sees this template as even somewhat reasonable and anything but incredibly rude and absolutely unnecessary.--KR | T 02:30, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(One, two, Charlotte's comin' for you) 03:43, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:AustralianParliamentaryHandbook (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I'm not sure what this is. If it's a license, it's not free enough. If it's an assertion of fair use, it is duplicative of U.S. fair use laws and needlessly asserts compliance with Australian laws. Furthermore, its only possible use is on images of politicians, and as living individuals all of those images are replaceable with free images. — -N 01:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - It's written permission from rom the copyright holder (the Commonwealth of Australia) to use what are essentially official portraits on Wikipedia. It covers images of Members, Senators and Governors-General from current and past editions of the Australian Parliamentary Handbook going back to 1915, which inevitably includes individuals who are no longer politicians and/or now deceased. Use of those images outside Wikipedia is not Wikipedia's problem. Maybe it's a question of wording in the template? Dbromage 04:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is unacceptable as a license (restricts redistribution, especially commercial redistribution, and does not allow for modification in any case). It is unnecessary as a fair use notice (we already have plenty of those, and we generally don't require the permission of the creator for fair use). It is useless for future images because of the fixed date. Moreover, it is being used for images of living subjects, where content under a free license can be obtained to replace them (such as Image:JohnHowardCrop.jpg). There is no need to keep it. -- Gavia immer (talk) 13:23, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regretful delete - While I absolutely believe the creator of this template has the best intentions, it is unfortunately just an Australian Parliament-version of the depreciated {{Noncommercial}}. --Kralizec! (talk) 19:39, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - this is a remnant from the good old days when Wikipedia editors were more concerned with improving the quality of Wikipedia and making sure there weren't copyright violations in pictures, than is the case nowadays given the "free content" obsession where not even non-reproduceable historic images seem to be allowed. The user who created this template was absolutely in good faith, by attempting to make sure that we were not in violation of Australian copyright law in uploading these images to Wikipedia. Unfortunately accordance with the law is not even good enough. This shows the misunderstanding that those who write Wikipedia's copyright policies have about the situation in Australia - it is VERY hard, in some cases all but impossible, to get free images of many of our (federal) politicians and judges; something that simply would not happen in the US because of their Public Domain licensing. I think the fact that we can't even get a free-licensed picture of our immediate past Prime Minister really says something. While I'm happy to abide by WP's licensing policy, I think it's a shame and regrettable that this has to be deleted. JRG 03:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was userify. WoohookittyWoohoo! 06:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User Against Srebrenica Genocide Denial (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Encountered this userbox while looking at an ANI complaint. Given the mass amount of edit warring, incivility, and POV pushing on this subject, the box is inflammatory and divisive, and conveys a polemical statement, all of which are no-nos for templates and userboxes. However, I don't expect that speedy deleting it per T1 would go very smoothly, so I've brought it here. —Coredesat 01:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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