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Henry IV (11 November 1050 – 7 August 1106) was Holy Roman Emperor from 1084 to 1105. Inheriting the throne at the age of five in 1056, Henry was placed under his mother's guardianship. The Archbishop of Cologne kidnapped him in 1062 and administered Germany until he came of age in 1065. Ignoring the ideas of the Gregorian Reform, Henry insisted on the royal prerogative to appoint bishops in his German and Italian realms. The Investiture Controversy culminated when Pope Gregory VII excommunicated Henry in response to Henry's attempt to dethrone him. Henry carried out his penitential Walk to Canossa in 1077 and Gregory absolved him. Henry's German opponents ignored this absolution and elected an anti-king. Most German and northern Italian bishops remained loyal to Henry and elected the antipope, Clement III, who crowned Henry emperor in Rome in 1084. His son, Henry V, forced him to abdicate on 31 December 1105. (Full article...)


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Hi Borsoka and congratulations. A draft blurb for this article is above. Thoughts, comments and edits from you or from anyone else interested are welcome. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I think the blurb covers the most important events of Henry's life, but we should mention the Investiture Controversy. "Henry's actions antagonised Pope Alexander II, who blamed Henry's advisors and excommunicated them in 1073. Henry adopted an active policy in Italy, alarming Alexander's successor, Pope Gregory VII. Henry persuaded most of the German bishops to declare Gregory's election invalid. In response, Gregory excommunicated Henry in 1076." > "Ignoring the ideas of the Gregorian Reform, Henry insisted on the royal prerogative to appoint bishops in his German and Italian realms. The Investiture Controversy culminated when Pope Gregory VII excommunicated Henry in response to Henry's attempt to dethrone him." Or something similar. :) Borsoka (talk) 23:46, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Amended per your suggestion, although note that there is no link to Gregorian Reform in the article. How does it look? Gog the Mild (talk) 10:08, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I linked GR in the artucle. My only question is the difference between anti-king and antipope. I will never understand the secrets of English.:) Borsoka (talk) 15:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hah - I am not sure that I will either. There is not, I believe, such a construction as anti-pope, so I have to use antipope; which is not uncommon if one studies this period. One can have anti-king or antiking; I have gone for the former to make it a little clearer to a reader what it means - it is a very uncommon word. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I only referred to the different spelling of the two words: anti-king is with a hyphen, and antipope without one. We Hungarians know both words, maybe because we had anti-kings and Catholicism is a major religion in Hungary. Borsoka (talk) 17:51, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]