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Proposed merger of President of the Irish Republic --> President of Dáil Éireann[edit]

Just to make sure the merger notice is seen before I move ahead next week, I've proposed merging President of the Irish Republic into President of Dáil Éireann. —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 08:31, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Merging lists of Ministers of State into Government pages[edit]

A few weeks ago, I proposed moving the lists of ministers into the pages of their respective government pages, so Parliamentary Secretaries of the 3rd Dáil into Government of the 3rd Dáil up to merging Ministers of State of the 32nd Dáil into Government of the 32nd Dáil, making the distinction clear of course, between those requiring appointment by the president after approval by the Dáil, and those requiring only appointment by the government itself. There was a mixed response at the discussion, and no clear consensus. After finishing a project of adding references to Dáil debates for the approval of all government ministers where possible, I'm more convinced that this would be a good idea.

In summary:

  • It shows a full scheme of those with government positions, helpfully showing coalition breakdowns. This makes sure we see things like the arrangement with the Farmers Party that is only apparent in the Parliamentary Secretaries of the 6th Dáil, or the breakdown in 1948, where CnP got two cabinet ministers, but no Parl Secretaries, where CnaT got a cabinet minister and two Parl Secs.
  • It shows a more complete story if we are to add narrative sections, for example in reshuffles or resignations that affect the junior ranks.
  • It allows a notation of super juniors that reflects both their formal position as Minister of State, so keeping them in a distinct list, but also noting that they are at cabinet.
  • Also consider the foreign reader, who might see a reference to, say, Helen McEntee. That Minister for European Affairs is in a second separate list makes it clear that this is a junior, not a cabinet position.

Most reference books like Nealon list them on a single page, as do the equivalent pages for other jurisdictions, and the government's website. None of these bind us, but they at least suggest it's a reasonable way to organise the information.

I'm rehearsing some arguments, if any of you have thoughts beyond this, the conversation is at Talk:Government of the 32nd Dáil#Proposed merger of Ministers of States into this page. –Iveagh Gardens (talk) 15:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Casement's "Black Diaries"[edit]

I've massively added to the sources for and against in the past month. I might sign up for an account while it's still free. (talk) 12:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


Proposal to delete all portals

The discussion is at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal to delete Portal space. Voceditenore (talk) 07:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Getting Irish Charities on Wikipedia[edit]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering would anyone else like to help me, I want to work on getting together more Irish Charities on wikipedia? Some have pages but they are very short.

I was also going to try add mre info to The Wheel

Declanedits (talk) 19:02, 25 September 2019 (UTC)