User talk:Jonathan Logan

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Hello, Jonathan Logan, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Fishing history

Hi Jonathan. With regard to your additions to Template:Fishing history, I removed Neil McLean because his brother, Allan, is already on the list and the article on Neil adds nothing new (there is also little of substance or interest to fishing history in the article on Allan, and it should probably be removed as well). I also removed Chicken of the Sea since it appears to be an ordinary marketing operation of little historic interest to fishing. --Geronimo20 (talk) 01:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Politicians

Just so you know, there's actually a separate {{Infobox Officeholder}} that we should use for politicians instead of just {{infobox person}}. Bearcat (talk) 20:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

note

My reply is on my talk page re: Charles de Biencourt de Saint-Just. --Stormbay (talk) 02:10, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Red Party

Maybe we can translate the titles in parentheses?

There is a small section on Non-English sources in the Verifiablity policy, but it does not say anything beyond what we might call basic common sense.

I guess the best I can do is start to add footnotes, where I will provide translations.

It should be easier to find English-language sources for Province of Canada, because the subject is not specific to Quebec. I'll start looking.

It is a strange coincidence that you posted your request for sources, because I last week I contacted Library and Archives Canada to let them know that there was a mistake on this public site:

• The Canadian State Political Library

The mistake was (and still is as of now) that when you try to download the Manifeste du Club national démocratique (Club national démocratique = Parti rouge) you end up with Étude sur l'union projetée des provinces britanniques de l'Amérique du Nord, by Joseph Cauchon instead! The civil servant who replied me (within 72 hours, not too bad :-) said they were going to re-digitize it within "a few weeks".

According to Yvan Lamonde, "Parti rouge" and "les rouges", are labels stuck on them by their political adversaries to compare them to the Italian Redshirts. Other than comparable ideologies, the analogy could very well come from the Italian flag which really is the same as the one used by the Lower Canada Patriots, only with the stripes vertical instead of horizontal. -- Mathieugp (talk) 21:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The Verifiability policy's section on Non-English sources makes it clear that:

"editors should use English-language sources in preference to sources in other languages, assuming the availability of an English-language source of equal quality, so that readers can easily verify that the source material has been used correctly. Where editors use non-English sources, they should ensure that readers can verify for themselves the content of the original material and the reliability of its author/publisher."

"Where editors use a non-English source to support material that others might challenge, or translate any direct quote, they need to quote the relevant portion of the original text in a footnote or in the article, so readers can check that it agrees with the article content. Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations made by Wikipedia editors."

Presently, there are quite a good number of Quebec-related articles that fail "to quote the relevant portion of the original text in a footnote or in the article", the main reason probably being that published translations are unavailable. As for editors providing the translations themselves, well, while a lot of people can read French, they do not have the necessary skills to translate from French to English. The fact that it is time consuming and requires considerable intellectual effort surely does not help.

Basically, it is best to find English sources if they exist. French sources should be substituted for English ones if possible, if not then they should come with a relevant translation for verifiability by the greater number.

All that being said, it seems to me that a French source on a Quebec subject, while not readily verifiable by most Wikipedia editors is readily verifiable by a lot of French-English bilinguals in Canada (or elsewhere) and is not as bad as would for example be a source in Swedish or Mayan. ;-) -- Mathieugp (talk) 19:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Joseph Z. Daigle

Since both entries in your disambiguation page led to an article about the same person, I've combined the functions into a redirect page that should accomplish the same function. This is the way to go when faced with two reasonable spellings under which a Wikipedia user would be searching for information about the same person. The disambig page was the right idea, it's just that redirect is more commonly used. If I can be of any further help, just leave me a note. Accounting4Taste:talk 15:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Re John McAdam (politician) and McAdam -- good question. The way you've arranged it, you can get to the politician if you start from the businessman, but it takes two steps, and I confess I'm not delighted with that. Unfortunately I cannot find a way to alter the italicized paragraph at the beginning of the businessman's entry to take you directly to the politician; you have to go through the disambig page first. This is the best I have to offer at the moment, unless you'd like me to consult someone more experienced about exactly what should be done and get back to you. (I don't quite know who that would be at the moment, but I have resources available.) Accounting4Taste:talk 19:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

List of communities in New Brunswick

Hello Jonathan! I'm Red Castle from the french wikipedia. My message is not directed only at you but I saw you are interested in Acadia. Me (and other people) have upgraded the list on our wiki and it now contains every municipalities and LSD in province. There are only some minor problems remaining, so if you or some other people interested in New Brunswick, it could be a good base to make yours better. Just take care of the fact that some places have officiel or unofficial french names, so we used them in those particular case. Have a nice day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.189.237 (talk) 16:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

WP PEI invitation

WikiProject Prince Edward Island is a new wikiproject which is a collaboration area and open group of editors dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of Prince Edward Island. As you have shown an interest in Lestock P. W. DesBrisay we thought we would extend an invitation to you to join our wikiproject! Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 02:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Mather Byles DesBrisay

Re Mather Byles DesBrisay, one of the external links was changed to a reference citation using the wiki style of referencing...Wikipedia:Citation templates. Could more be added to the article to support Wikipedia:Notability. SriMesh | talk 02:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

When stating facts within an article it is best to use citations or references which enumerate the references and cite them in the style of for instance those at Wikipedia:Citation templates which generates footnotes. If doing this, then external links are not needed. The manner in which the original two WWW urls were listed was done in the wikipedia style of an external link. I modified Geneology of Mather Byles DesBrisay to be in citation or reference style. There should be about 2 inline citations per paragraph as a general rule of thumb, or for every new fact introduced to prove verifiability SriMesh | talk 18:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thought I would leave the other change for you, as I would need to read the articles to find out what facts you were sourcing out. I read the articles, and changed both now to the inline reference format. SriMesh | talk 18:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Added an infobox template. For more about biographies see BiographySriMesh | talk 18:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

46th New Brunswick Legislative Assembly

I checked the Canadian Parliamentary Guide for 1968, 1970 and 1973. There are only Mooers & Ames listed for York. Also, I found the following note "Mr. Graham (Kent) paid tribute to the late Weldon Lawrence, Progressive Conservative Member for York County (1952 - 1963)." in [1]. (I think that the last year should be 1967, though.) --Big_iron (talk) 09:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding 43rd New Brunswick Legislative Assembly, there were 4 members elected for Charlotte in 1956. The other member was Lorne B. Groom; his seat became vacant some time before 1958. Groom probably resigned his seat to run for the federal seat for Charlotte in 1957. I have updated the assembly article. --Big_iron (talk) 20:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Help

{{helpme}}

I made a change to the template Template:Infobox Military Person to add "cemetery=" but it didn't work. Could someone tell me what I did wrong or just fix this, please. Jonathan Logan (talk) 12:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

John, don't worry. All that got changed was the documentation for the template, rather than the template itself. If you would like the template updated to include this infomration, just ask and I'll try to help out. Hope this helps, Gazimoff ^Write_Read 12:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Update for you. Per this discussion, a place of burial field has been added for you. Hope this works OK for you. Any problems, please raise it on the template talk page. Hope this helps, Gazimoff ^Write_Read 13:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Ford Messer

A tag has been placed on Ford Messer, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page.

If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Dpmuk (talk) 12:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

James K. Pinder

The original content was based on information from 1897; I have updated it from the 1924 guide. I suspect that Pinder should also appear in the 36th assembly but he died before the end of his term, but I will need to check back on that. --Big_iron (talk) 08:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

My suspicion was incorrect. Pinder wasn't elected to the 36th assembly. --Big_iron (talk) 20:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Azor LeBlanc

You are right; it should have been Westmorland, not Northumberland. Thank you for spotting that. --Big_iron (talk) 08:51, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Ernest Richard

I have corrected the list of members for Gloucester in the 41st Assembly to include Ernest Richard. Both of the listed references for his bio show him as having first been elected in 1948. I went back to the source, and, in 1948, there were five seats and five candidates, so all five were indeed acclaimed. Thank you for the consistency check. --Big_iron (talk) 09:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

You're invited!

Hello, Jonathan Logan,

You are invited meet with your fellow Wikipedians by attending the Montréal meetup scheduled on Sunday, June 27, 2010; between 1500 - 1700 to be held at the Comité Social Centre Sud (CSCS), located at 1710 Beaudry, in Montréal. You can sign up at the meetup page.

The meetup is happening in concurrence with RoCoCo 2010, a free, bilingual, weekend unconference including many people involved with Wikis both within the Wikipedia/Wikimedia Community and abroad. You do not need to attend the conference to sign up for the Wikimeetup, but you are certainly welcome! Bastique ^{☎ call me!}

(PS: Please share this with those you know who might not be on the delivery list, i.e. Users in Montreal/Quebec)

Delivered by SoxBot (talk) 00:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Parti acadien

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FYI, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto and Vancouver all have separate importance ratings, due in response to protesting WPCANADA's imperialistic rating policies. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 11:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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New 10,000 Challenge for Canada

Hi, Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge is up and running based on Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge for the UK which has currently produced over 2300 article improvements and creations. If you'd like to see large scale quality improvements happening for Canada like The Africa Destubathon, which has produced over 1600 articles in 5 weeks, sign up on the page. The idea will be an ongoing national editathon/challenge for Canada but fuelled by a contest such as The North America Destubathon to really get articles on every province and subject mass improved. I would like some support from Canadian wikipedians here to get the Challenge off to a start with some articles to make doing a Destubathon worthwhile! Cheers. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:55, 22 November 2016 (UTC)