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A fact from Alvin "Shipwreck" Kelly appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 December 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Alvin "Shipwreck" Kelly spent over 20,000 hours sitting on flagpoles in the 1920s and 1930s, including hundreds of hours in the rain and subfreezing weather?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2014/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alvin "Shipwreck" Kelly.

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Daily News photograph[edit]

Found this picture:

http://www.nydailynewspix.com/sales/largeview.php?name=N1987609.jpg&id=90013&lbx=-1&return_page=searchResults.php&page=2

Not sure if it's legal to post it in the sixth link.

Bert, Holland.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.166.23.236 (talk • contribs)

Not seeing the link at present (the above was posted a year ago) but if it is on a newspaper website it is almost certainly copyrighted. There are other possible sources. Coretheapple (talk) 17:59, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page not moved. Rider ranger47 ^Talk 15:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(non-admin closure)

Requested move 29 December 2014[edit]

It was proposed in this section that Alvin "Shipwreck" Kelly be renamed and moved to Shipwreck Kelly (pole sitter).

The discussion has been closed, and the result will be found in the closer's comment.

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Alvin "Shipwreck" Kelly → Shipwreck Kelly (pole sitter) – The current name is contrary to the WP:NICKNAME advice to "avoid ... adding a nickname ... in quotes between first and last name. For example: Bill Clinton, not William "Bill" Clinton." But we probably can't move it to Shipwreck Kelly because there is also a football player known by that name. —BarrelProof (talk) 02:40, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – I'm not so sure. WP:NICKNAME says avoid things like William "Bill" Clinton; you'd never see that in sources, but Alvin "Shipwreck" Kelly is very common just like that, in books and web pages. It looks to me like the present title may be OK, and more recognizable, natural, and concise than the proposed alternative. Dicklyon (talk) 06:05, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Despite discourage, this is an exception due to reliable sources using the current name often. There is Robert John "Mutt" Lange, whose name was disputed twice. --George Ho (talk) 07:38, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per comments above. Coretheapple (talk) 15:23, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per @Dicklyon: - I made the same point at the RM for Talk:Shipwreck Kelly. The nickname in quotes provides the best disambiguator for these two, as they are very commonly referred to that way. — Amakuru (talk) 11:51, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, or move to Alvin Kelly. The only other person listed on that dab is a list entry who would probably never have his own article. --BDD (talk) 15:37, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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