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From the article: A player bats at home plate and must proceed counterclockwise to first base, second base, third base, and back home (...) Many similar examples elsewhere. Why do the bases and the home plate never get a definite article where correct grammar would otherwise demand one? 184.108.40.206 (talk) 14:14, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Interesting — I never really thought about it. My intuition is that these terms sort of play the role of place names — it's not the first base among four bases, but rather it's First Base, an (abstract) place. But then they should be capitalized, which they're not.
Anyway, we really shouldn't be discussing it here unless it in some way affects the quality of the article. You might ask at WP:Reference desk/Language. --Trovatore (talk) 20:49, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I question whether "Baseball, like softball, is unlike most other competitive sports in that the defense is given control of the ball" is the second most important thing to be said about baseball. I stalled for some time at this very early stage in the article, puzzling over whether / why this was true. I would be more than happy to see this rather obscure proposition buried deep in the article. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 20:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
This diagram is confusing because, while I realise it is primarily intended to depict fielding positions, one naturally assumes that the labels "1B FIRST BASE", "2B SECOND BASE" and "3B THIRD BASE" are in the positions of the respective bases. It seems from other diagrams (including one later in this article) that "second base" is not in the position shown, but is actually at the corner of the square. As this diagram is the first thing one sees when one comes to the article, I feel it really ought to be clearer. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 19:32, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
The diagram is labeled as the nine fielding positions. I'm not sure I'm in love the digram itself or why it needs to be at the top of the page, but I don't think it's confusing. Ckruschke (talk) 19:42, 23 May 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke
That may be because you are already familiar with the layout of a baseball field. Try to put yourself in the position of someone who knows nothing whatsoever about baseball. Don't you think they might assume that second base is located at, um, the position labelled "SECOND BASE"? 22.214.171.124 (talk) 20:01, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
I think the issue is that the diagram fails to distinguish between the player and the location on the field, that is "first base" vs "first baseman" or "right field" vs "right fielder". Mindmatrix 20:24, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
The notion that baseball popularity is falling behind football is not completely factual.
Baseball is televised regionally, while football is broadcast nationally. A national survey is not exactly how this subject should be asked….. Instead the survey should be conducted in each baseball and football markets, ex. Are there more baseball or football fans in the Boston or New York or Los Angeles areas. I'm sure you will find that in a regional based survey baseball will win hands down.
Joseph Smith is I believe the first recorded player of "Town-Ball" in the United States, in 1830, almost a decade before the article's statement of the first American to be recorded in playing "Town-Ball" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 15:17, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
It should be "the team with MORE runs", not "most runs". "More" is comparative and used for two teams; "most" implies three or more teams. However, this may be another part of grammar that Americans have destroyed, so it might be technically correct nowadays. I hope not, but appreciate that language evolves.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk • contribs)