Talk:Buckyball (disambiguation)

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Redirect to the molecule or fullerene[edit]

Honestly, I have no idea who made the decision to redirect this to the article on a football (ball used in association football), but it's absurd. It doesn't matter that the ball predates the molecule, since the term 'buckyball' was invented specifically for Buckminsterfullerene, and its etymology follows from the name of its discoverer, Buckminster Fuller, the ball was never referred to as a buckyball before fullerene was discovered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.153.14.194 (talk) 22:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Buckyball"[edit]

Was the redirect at "Buckyball" prior to your move of the disambiguation page on top of "Buckyball" recently changed from a primary topic to point to the disambiguation page? To my thinking there should have already been a primary topic. Buckyball (molecule) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) shows a prior move off "Buckyball" last year in 2014. Were perhaps intermediate versions of the disambiguation page hosted in the 2014 version of the "Buckyball" page (prior to moving this page on top of that one)?

-- 65.94.40.137 (talk) 08:42, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@User:65.94.40.137: For the move, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests&oldid=644373981 . The previous history of page Buckyball (which is all disambig edits) may be at Buckyball (molecule) (which is all redirect edits). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:20, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll be proposing something then. -- 65.94.40.137 (talk) 09:33, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 January 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: move. Number 5 7 13:36, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Buckyball → Buckyball (disambiguation) – The WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of "buckyball" is buckminsterfullerene, and "buckyball" should therefore redirect to C₆₀ [1][2] -- 65.94.40.137 (talk) 09:33, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

Strong support, clear primary topic by Google Books hits and by historical importance. bd2412 T 15:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support. "Buckyball" should be the page about the molecule (clearly the primary topic), with a disambiguation note at the top of the page saying "for other uses, see Buckyball (disambiguation)". --Guy Macon (talk) 16:22, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support. The chemical is quite patently the primary meaning. Buckyball is a contraction of buckminsterfullerene. And since when has a football been called this? The chemical is often compared to a football but footballs are not called buckyballs, except maybe by a few lab nerds as a joke. SpinningSpark 22:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - "Buckyball" as a shorthand for C₆₀ goes back to 1985 [3] and is the primary topic. --Kkmurray (talk) 23:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as I agree that buckminsterfullerene is the primary topic here. Egsan Bacon (talk) 01:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Clear primary topic. kennethaw88 • talk 05:21, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I wonder if the "Google bubble" is influencing the !voting here. When I Google for "buckyball", most of the hits I see are for a toy consisting of 216 spherical neodymium magnets (and none of them relates to football). This reveals more about my interests than about usage in the general population. Maproom (talk) 08:35, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- That seems likely, but the Google results are the same if you open a private window in Firefox to avoid "personalized results". There was a time when googling "ultrasound" brought up page after page of about the Gravis UltraSound brand of sound card (several pages of results from folks who couldn't get theirs to work followed by page after page from vendors). Any time a commercial product has the same name as something related to science or medicine, multiple vendors use "search engine optimization" to attempt to get to the top of Google, and in such cases, Wikipedia cannot trust Google as an indication of notability. This is especially true when the product is in the news for some reason. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:24, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Ditto. We all know what a tomcat is, but when I google for images of tomcats, I get lots of images of jet fighter planes and little else.
Absolutely support. --IJBall (talk) 07:03, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

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