Talk:Danny Thomas

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Rumors[edit]

Off-topic discussion of rumors that couldn't possibly wind up in the article
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Are we seriously not going to mention the coffee-table thing? I know it's not in the greatest taste, and I'm not here to soil a dead man's memory, but I do seriously think that the majority of the people that look up this guy now in the 21st century are actually looking for the one thing we do not mention on the page - that being that it is a very widely spread rumor that Danny Thomas liked to lie underneath a glass coffee table while someone (hookers) defecated on it. Please check these rumors with a simple google search before you identify me as a troll.

Where did YOU hear this rumor? Please cite your source(s) if you want to convince anybody that it should be taken seriously. 192.54.250.11 (talk) 19:40, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was referenced on HBO’s Veep as well. This is a well known fact about Danny Thomas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.208.193.203 (talk) 15:01, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I heard the same rumor about Raymond Burr. These stories seem to drift from actor to actor. Chandler75 (talk) 08:19, 29 November 2016 (UTC)th[reply]
It's an urban myth, plain and simple, and should be discarded as we treat all urban myths. Unfortunately, in this day and age of widespread abuse of the internet as a source, at some point a writer for a legitimate publisher will pick up on it, take it as fact, and print it. Thus, that will become the source people will cite as legitimate, and soon another bit of pop culture BS --such as the Three Stooges being put on Hitler's death list-- becomes part of the historical record. It's our task as wikipedia editors to be ever vigilant about this kind of stuff. ShelbyMarion (talk) 18:10, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@ShelbyMarion It's not an urban myth. He very much enjoyed the Squishies. 2601:18A:C402:A660:CC70:2B2D:D15F:7FFD (talk) 02:31, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is an urban myth. This myth has also been stated on morning radio shows as shock and used as a standby to run a collective of jokes. The myth has been applied towards Chuck Berry, Elton John, Danny Kaye and countless others. No witnesses to said events are ever named, there are no accountable sources. The consistent trait to this myth is that the target is either a minority, or lgbtq. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bletcherstonerson (talk • contribs) 14:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you implying that Chuck Berry didn't do that stuff? Because there's video evidence — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.241.106 (talk) 20:19, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In Chicago, I first heard the rumor told about Jack Brickhouse.

None of the rumors about any of the celebrities and semi-celebrities have any basis in reality.  Mr JM  17:30, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • I just noticed this rather nauseating and off-topic discussion. How about we hat this? Coretheapple (talk) 20:48, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism of Danny Thomas page[edit]

Someone (most likely the improbable subject child) keeps adding that Thomas had a second son by an illicit affair. Unverifiable, Family denies.) The only source for this "information" is the subject child's website, and a website of his "crazy mother", whom he believes although he states she abandoned him at 14, was abusive and was not of stable mind. This "child" claims Thomas left "death messages" in his autobiography to him and his mother and is responsible for the death of his child. You can see the mothers website at www.claudiaokeefe.com. I feel it is very important to block this person from adding to this page for his own benefit.Zabadu (talk) 17:10, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Religion[edit]

Danny Thomas was Orthodox, not Catholic. See: http://www.ex-morninglanders.com/news/news22.htm ——Preost talk contribs 23:47, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Are you sure about that? I'm essentially positive he was Maronite Catholic. He donated a statue of Mary to St. Victor's Catholic Church. He's also listed at Famous Maronites. The Antiochian site only lists him as Arab, not specifically Antiochian Orthodox. I find several other sources saying he's Maronite.--T. Anthony 09:56, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
He was Catholic, not Orthodox. I kind of knew that anyway, but as pretty much every site I find agrees on it I'm going with it. Although he was Maronite, not Roman. We don't have a category for Eastern Rite Catholics so I muddled through.--T. Anthony 11:06, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
How did he become Catholic? "Amos Jacobs" does not sound particularly Roman Catholic. His family came from Lebanon. Few Roman Catholics lived in Lebanon in the early 20th century. What was the religion of his parents? Edison (talk) 05:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In his autobiography "Make Room for Danny" Danny says he was baptized at St. Alphonsus Church in Deerfield, MI by his parents. On page 26, he speaks of attending Catholic school at St. Francis de Sales, where the nuns "didn't think Amos was Christian enough for a Catholic boy" and tried to talk his mother into naming him Ambrose. His mother confused the church name on his baptismal certificate and always considered him named Amos Alphonsus Jacobs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.149.14.99 (talk) 16:44, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand it, He was "Catholic", just not "Roman Catholic" He was a "Maronite Catholic", as stated on the St. Jude's Page. I believe the reference is incorrect. The Maronite Catholics are in full communication with the Holy See. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:781:5A09:8C3D:6082:8191:ECAA (talk) 02:48, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistencies[edit]

The article has 3 different dates of birth listed : January 6/1912, January 16/1912 and January 6/1914. Which is correct? Hotwine8 (talk) 19:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Social Security Death Index (SSDI), Danny Thomas was born on 6 January 1912 and died on 6 February 1991. This is an official source of record, and should be considered authoritative and final unless it is either found to be contradicted by other official records, or a convincing argument can be made as to why it is incorrect. 64.81.122.11 (talk) 19:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to his autobiography "Make Room For Danny",(pub. 1991, G.P. Pulman's Sons) he was born on January 6, 1914, on a horse farm. He said this "gave rise to another of those religious jokes about me 'born in a stable, of course'."

Religion[edit]

Danny Thomas was Orthodox, not Catholic. See: http://www.ex-morninglanders.com/news/news22.htm ——Preost talk contribs 23:47, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Are you sure about that? I'm essentially positive he was Maronite Catholic. He donated a statue of Mary to St. Victor's Catholic Church. He's also listed at Famous Maronites. The Antiochian site only lists him as Arab, not specifically Antiochian Orthodox. I find several other sources saying he's Maronite.--T. Anthony 09:56, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
He was Catholic, not Orthodox. I kind of knew that anyway, but as pretty much every site I find agrees on it I'm going with it. Although he was Maronite, not Roman. We don't have a category for Eastern Rite Catholics so I muddled through.--T. Anthony 11:06, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
How did he become Catholic? "Amos Jacobs" does not sound particularly Roman Catholic. His family came from Lebanon. Few Roman Catholics lived in Lebanon in the early 20th century. What was the religion of his parents? Edison (talk) 05:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In his autobiography "Make Room for Danny" Danny says he was baptized at St. Alphonsus Church in Deerfield, MI by his parents. On page 26, he speaks of attending Catholic school at St. Francis de Sales, where the nuns "didn't think Amos was Christian enough for a Catholic boy" and tried to talk his mother into naming him Ambrose. His mother confused the church name on his baptismal certificate and always considered him named Amos Alphonsus Jacobs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.149.14.99 (talk) 16:44, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The predominant Christian group in Lebanon is the Meronite Catholic Church. The Meronites are a particular variety of eastern-rite Roman Catholics. The Meronites, like other eastern-rite Catholics have clergy who can be married ('though are not allowed to marry once they are ordained.)

Freemasonry is inconsistent with Catholicism and he most likely would have been excommunicated for his activity with the Masons. Is there any information about this? [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoocat (talk • contribs) 01:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Freemasonry[edit]

If Danny Thomas was a member of the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (Shriners) he would have had to have been either a 32nd degree Mason in the Scottish Rite, or Knight Templar in the York Rite. The Shrine did not allow 3rd degree Masons to join 'till after Mr. Thomas' death. IIRC Mr. Thomas was featured in the Scottish Rite's magazine at the time of his death.

Reaching the 3rd degree of Masonry is a requisite for becoming a member of the Scottish Rite or York Rite. If Danny Thomas was a Shriner, then he must have also been a 3rd degree Mason. The Shrine did not allow 3rd degree Masons who were not also in Scottish Rite or York Rite to join until recently. Just Some Guy (talk) 04:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic Music[edit]

I am surprised that there is no mention of Mr. Thomas's accomplishments as a singer of Arabic songs. He contributes a song with Toufiq Barham on The Music of Arab Americans - A Retrospective Collection, which can be found in the iTunes store and on Amazon. Speaking as a career musician without much experience in Arabic music, I believe that he exhibits talent and what I would guess to be some training. Does anyone know of this?Tboneman51 (talk) 04:38, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just added a section on his music career. (The Arabic track was only a small part of it). Akhooha (talk) 19:04, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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