Talk:Discipline

i'm laughing irl over how fucking bad this article is

I removed this tripe: "Discipline is the showing of integrity by following the rules, even if, in some cases, it would be easier, at least in the short term, to not follow the rules."

I dispute the assertion that "discipline" is "also a Mormon word for love". I am a long-standing Mormon, and have never heard this before. I think it needs to be removed. Mormonchess 02:36, 12 October 2005 (UTC)Mormonchess

no one lack discipline? In what sense? This seems to abandon both a neutral point of view and connection with sources, facts, and reasoned analysis. Which people? What discipline?

Some reference should also be made to trades as most types of professional practice can be referred to as disciplines which is a variant of the primary connotation. -- M0llusk 03:11, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Military discipline

The stub doesn't take much account of discipline as behavioral control, as in schools, work groups, and particularly the military. A section on the latter is particularly needed. --Pring 21:44, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Discipline while often thought to be a coercive mechanism, can be a collaboative process of building consensus regarding accepted behaviour within institutions and society. In order to bring out Discipline in true and right manner we have to think diffrently. Regards Nitin Gosain.

Discipline may or may not be coercive, depending on whether the individual is actively trying to cooperate or resisting, whether the discipline comes from an individual, a top-down hierarchy or a group. I do think it helps if everyone has a voice in the matter. If consensus is sought or required, cooperation probably increases. Still, I'm curious about your notion of the true and right form of discipline. Apwith (talk) 17:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Objectivity

The link Is that the best you can do? isn't very objective. It just boils down to Discipline is good, a lack of discipline is bad. Hackwrench 06:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation

There is a link in the first sentence that points to the Develompent disambiguation page: ("...produces moral or mental development..."). I'm trying to fix such links, but am unsure as to which of the variety of uses of Development is most appropriate here. Could someone check this out and edit the sentence and/or the link to point directly at a more relevant page? Thanks. Chidom 03:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC) Since I didn't get a response; I'll just remove the link for now. Thanks.—Chidom ^talk  06:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Request a link

The Tufts University Child and Family WebGuide is a good discipline resource. http://www.cfw.tufts.edu/topic/2/27.htm

The WebGuide is a directory that evaluates, describes and provides links to hundreds of sites containing child development research and practical advice. The WebGuide, a not-for-profit resource, was based on parent and professional feedback, as well as support from such noted child development experts as David Elkind, Edward Zigler, and the late Fred Rogers. Topics cover all ages, from early child development through adolescence. The WebGuide selects sites that have the highest quality child development research and that are parent friendly.

The discipline page of this site includes articles containing extensive research and worthwhile advice on various forms of child discipline within the family and the classroom. Useful articles suggest ways to discipline a child, including forms of child discipline and safe measures for parents to take to control their children. Teamme 15:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, but, should parents try to 'take control of their children'? Apwith (talk) 18:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

No References

Added an unreferenced tag due to there being no references. MastaFighta (talk) 02:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

discpline to me is like when u follow gigglguligyge hgilu glk

^{Superscript text_{Subscript text}} —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.150.198.2 (talk) 00:13, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

misspelled obedience on line 1

In the quote on the first line of the main body (under "usage"), obedience is spelled with two o's. It's so obvious that I suspect vandalism. I would just quietly correct it, but I enjoy the irony so I'll let someone with less of a sense of humor set it all aright. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.201.24.136 (talk) 16:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Sport discipline

This article also need information about sport discipline. --Kslotte (talk) 11:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Is their such a thing as Sport Discipline? DarkFireII13 13:14, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

This Must be Improved or Removed

This is an absolutely abysmal entry. It is full to the brim with grammar mistakes, poor writing, and editorializing. A list of "summary notes, taken many years ago"? A random, unexplained picture of a samurai with a vague and awkward caption? The opening five paragraphs are a mess. It reminds me of opinions expressed in a high school essay or on a personal website. Perhaps I am being overly harsh, but I have come to expect better from Wikipedia. 67.183.129.236 (talk) 07:58, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Education of the Will

The Education of the Will section is pretty terrible. I'm not sure what it's even supposed to be. Is that list quoted? It isn't sourced, and it's not clear whether it's a direct quote or not. I've been copy editing this article, so I did some copy editing within it, although I shouldn't have if it is indeed a quote. To be honest I don't think the section should even be there. Thoughts? Spock of Vulcan (talk) 06:28, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Military discipline section

The section on military discipline definitely has problems. I'm not the best at diagnosing these things, but I'd call it POV. I removed a couple of sentences that were clearly unencyclopaedic and could be easily removed, but the rest is a bit trickier. There's a whole paragraph that basically says military discipline is better than "civilian discipline", which I think could be removed altogether. Thoughts? Spock of Vulcan (talk) 06:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• It got worse since you looked at it: this is nothing but original research, enlisting the Gospel of Matthew into the function and enforcement of military discipline. Drmies (talk) 00:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Eek, I see what you're saying. The whole last paragraph of that section is pretty questionable, what with all that talk of being "good for nothing but to be trampled on" being back, which I'd taken out before. As for the part about civilian orders, I'm not sure I even understand it. Does that mean police officers? Because they can put you in jail, and that's a lot more than a "verbal reprimand". Or does it mean employers? That should be clarified. Spock of Vulcan (talk) 18:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

"child discipline"

Material removed here was not verified to RS, and was largely inaccurate anyway (it is not just in "christian homes" (sic) that children get spanked). Moreschi (talk) 13:31, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Usage

In the Usage section, where did these two lines come from? They look like editing errors or worse:

==Methods of discipline== yogesh malpani class x , st.paul's school

===Military discipline=== YOGESH MALPANI , ST.PAUL'S SCHOOL , BEAWAR

69.19.238.101 (talk) 00:00, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

"self-discipline is the development of you're mind to prepare you're self in any of you're work and prepare you're mind towards it, and having determination of 'i can do it" -Harshith.B.M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.151.208.106 (talk) 13:21, 11 September 2011 (UTC)