Talk:Elizabeth I of England

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May not have been told[edit]

We are told that "Mary may not have been told of every plot". If the article is going to include everything Mary might and might not have known or been told, it will get very long.

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2014[edit]


87.242.197.196 (talk) 20:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. NiciVampireHeart 21:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2014[edit]

I have never edited a semi=protected page before, and very pages at all, but I suggest adding a comma between "... Elizabeth's birth" and the next word, "and," in the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Introduction. The second half of the whole sentence is itself a compound sentence, and hus the comma I suggest. It might be even clearer to change the preceding semi-colon to a period and capitalize the "however" immediately following the semi-colon.


Please alert me to any comments or feedback, especially to best editing and talk-page practices. I am user whydonuts and eager to learn, thanks. Whydonuts (talk) 16:11, 2 August 2014‎

Yes check.svg Done Someone may complain about a comma before an "and", but the Oxford comma seems appropriate here; conversely starting a sentence with "However", would probably cause more complaints.
Grammar is rather personal and applied slightly differently in the US and UK - but as this is a UK article we stick with UK spelling and grammar.
Whydonuts, I wouldn't worry too much about semi-protected edit requests as, after two more edits, you should be able to make these changes yourself - Arjayay (talk) 16:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

The Virginity Myth[edit]

Certain editors keep changing the page to imply that Elizabeth was a virgin, when there's no historical evidence that she was, and in fact it's probable that she was not. This needs to be solidly fixed. It's an absurdly controversial claim. — Kaz (talk) 16:07, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a valid reference that she wasn't? If so, put it up here so other editors can evaluate it. The ball's in your court.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 23:30, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Elizabeth always insisted she was a virgin and historians have largely agreed--there is no conclusive evidence otherwise. (Loades p 144-45 is useful) There was gossip aplenty but as Neale (1935 ch 5) showed long ago, it was contradictory & based on speculation and mistranslation. (Black, Reign of Elizabeth p 49n) As King (see his article online); Berry (Of Chastity and Power: Elizabethan Literature and the Unmarried Queen) and Wagner emphasize, her cult of the Virgin Queen gave her unusual power and she was careful never to disrupt it. John Wagner, Historical Dictionary of the Elizabethan World (1999) pp 316-7; also pp 91-92, 109-10, 145, 314. Rjensen (talk) 09:11, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

"Oriana" vs. "Gloriana"[edit]

I've always thought that her nickname was more typically "Oriana" as opposed to "Gloriana" mentioned in the first paragraph of the article. This is based on the collection of madrigals published in her honor by Thomas Morley in 1601, which was called The Triumphs of Oriana - 72.179.131.55 (talk) 06:10, 19 September 2014 (UTC)