Talk:Elizabeth I of England

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Featured article Elizabeth I of England is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Main Page trophy This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on September 7, 2004.
Flag of the United Kingdom.svg This article uses British English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.
Wikipedia CD Selection
WikiProject icon Elizabeth I of England is included in the Wikipedia CD Selection, see Elizabeth I of England at Schools Wikipedia. Please maintain high quality standards; if you are an established editor your last version in the article history may be used so please don't leave the article with unresolved issues, and make an extra effort to include free images, because non-free images cannot be used on the DVDs.
 
Version 0.5      (Rated FA-Class)
Peer review This History article has been selected for Version 0.5 and subsequent release versions of Wikipedia. It has been rated FA-Class on the assessment scale (comments).


May not have been told[edit]

We are told that "Mary may not have been told of every plot". If the article is going to include everything Mary might and might not have known or been told, it will get very long.

Gaelic not Scots language[edit]

The sentence 'By the end of her life, Elizabeth was also reputed to speak Welsh, Cornish, Scottish and Irish in addition to English' is slightly misleading. The 'Scottish' being referred clearly meant Gaelic, the older meaning of 'Scots'.

The actual quote says:

"She possessed nine languages so thoroughly that each appeared to be her native tongue; five of these were the languages of peoples governed by her, English, Welsh, Cornish, Scottish, for that part of her possessions where they are still savage, and Irish". . From: 'Venice: April 1603', Calendar of State Papers Relating to English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 9: 1592-1603 (1897), pp. 562-570. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.29.41 (talk) 20:15, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Presumably your own baseless original research again "Cassandra". Dr. Ivan Herbison of Queen's University Belfast is clear that Elizabeth used Scots to communicate with James VI of Scotland (about 9 minutes in).
In regard to the quote though, I'm not sure where she'd have found significant numbers of speakers of Scots or Scottish Gaelic actually in "her possessions". Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Elizabeth had a gaelic primer as a child, though it related to the Irish dialect. On balance I think the ambassador is referring to Scots gaelic. Yes, she was that learned.-Shtove 19:54, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

The Thomas Seymour affair[edit]

According to this article, Thomas Seymour's flirtatious relationship with Elizabeth was the "last straw" that turned the Regency Council against him, ultimately having him executed. But that is not quite right. It is a little more complicated than that. He was working to destableize and perhaps to overthrow the Regency council, take personal custody of the minor king, and possibly gain access to the throne by marrying Elizabeth, who was at the time, little more than an innocent child, unaware of these kinds of plots. Of course, I do not want to go overboard on the Thomas Seymour paragraph, but I think that the article could be a little improved, by adding a few more sentences.Grinbriar (talk) 21:12, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2014[edit]


87.242.197.196 (talk) 20:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. NiciVampireHeart 21:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2014[edit]

I have never edited a semi=protected page before, and very pages at all, but I suggest adding a comma between "... Elizabeth's birth" and the next word, "and," in the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Introduction. The second half of the whole sentence is itself a compound sentence, and hus the comma I suggest. It might be even clearer to change the preceding semi-colon to a period and capitalize the "however" immediately following the semi-colon.


Please alert me to any comments or feedback, especially to best editing and talk-page practices. I am user whydonuts and eager to learn, thanks. Whydonuts (talk) 16:11, 2 August 2014‎

Yes check.svg Done Someone may complain about a comma before an "and", but the Oxford comma seems appropriate here; conversely starting a sentence with "However", would probably cause more complaints.
Grammar is rather personal and applied slightly differently in the US and UK - but as this is a UK article we stick with UK spelling and grammar.
Whydonuts, I wouldn't worry too much about semi-protected edit requests as, after two more edits, you should be able to make these changes yourself - Arjayay (talk) 16:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)