Talk:Liv Tyler

GA Review

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• "Royston Langdon (2003-2008)" – requires an en dash per WP:DASH
  • Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
• "trilogy (2001 - 2003), in" – en dash required here, and no spaces
  • Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
• I think the image should be cropped to only show her upper body – perhaps from right below her right elbow, so that doesn't get cut off. Otherwise, it's long, vertically.
  • I cropped the image, but I don't know what's wrong with it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
• "After a brief hiatus" is a pretty short paragraph, but not much can be done there I suppose
• "Personal life" is made up of too many short paragraphs. I suggest merging a few, expanding a few, etc. until they aren't as small, stubby paragraphs. Please let me know when that is done then I can take another look at it.
  • Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
• Reference 2 needs to be formatted.
• "born Liv Rundgren[1] at Mount Sinai Hospital" – remove the bold
  • Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Gary King (talk) 21:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Personal Life

Only her biological father is italaian that should be clarified. Her father growing up was Todd Rudgren who is not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.136.2.158 (talk) 19:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

what evidence is there to support russian/ukranian descent?

i don't see how she falls into any of those categories, can anyone illuminate?Anatoly.bourov (talk) 20:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Contradictory passage/dates in "Early Life"

The following passage is contradictory. It indicates that she lived with Rundgren from 1972 to 1979, but then later that she was not born until 1977. I don't have sufficient info/knowledge to correct this, but it's clearly incorrect.

From 1972 to 1979, Buell lived with rock musician Todd Rundgren. In 1976, Buell became pregnant from a brief relationship with Steven Tyler. She gave birth on July 1, 1977

82.13.88.12 (talk) 18:31, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Buell is her mother. - Seasider53 (talk) 01:49, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

==Chess player?== I have seen on Pinterest a pic of Liv Tyler playing chess - it seems to be a minor mixed chess tournament for amateur players. If Liv is really an amateur chess player, or if it was mostly an occasional photo, I dont know at this moment./StefanZ83.223.9.173 (talk) 10:21, 6 March 2018 (UTC)/StefanZ. Continuation. I saw again that photo in a youtubesequence, etc. Its not from an amateur tournament even if it looks so on the photo. She is having a friendly chat and analyse with the norwegian chess grandmaster Magnus Carlsen, a friend and collegue in business. In another place I saw Liv tells she does play some, she likes chess. But apparently not playing on any competitive level, sooner home chess. Still, may be worth mentioning./StefanZ83.223.9.173 (talk) 15:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)/StefanZ

"a brief hiatus"?

What does this mean? Please define and source this. Regards, CapnZapp (talk) 14:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Taking a break from acting. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Discovering Tyler

There's a discrepancy in the article concerning Tyler's age when she discovered Steven Tyler was her father. The article says "Tyler discovered her true parentage at age nine", with two references, one to a People bio timeline [1] and one to Hello Magazine profile [2]. The problem is that People states that she was introduced to Steven Tyler in 1986, but not as her father, and she didn't figure it out until 1988 when she saw her sister at a concert. Hello said she figured it out for herself at age 10. The next sentence says "She discovered that she was Steven Tyler's daughter after meeting him and noticing a resemblance she shared with his other daughter, Mia", with the People source (fine), and with a Daily Telegraph source saying "But when Liv was 11 years old, Steven Tyler appeared at a Todd Rundgren concert and ran into mother and daughter. Just from looking at him - at his face and his hands, the way he picked his cuticles - she figured out for herself who her father was." So the problem is, none of the sources say it was age 9, one gives a year but not the date to indicate her age, one says 10 and one says 11. I'm clearly not sure what it should read in the article here, but it does need to be determined, because the article isn't right based on the sources. I'm thinking perhaps it should just 1988? Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:46, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure about 11, but it's definitely not when she was 9. I found two articles, one from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the other from the Daily News of Los Angeles, they are both now archived, but I have access to NewsBank and this is what the St. Louis one says:

Liv seems shockingly sane for someone with her background. Her mother is Bebe Buell, a '70s groupie who had a five-year relationship with [Todd] Rundgren before hooking up with [Steven] Tyler in 1977. Buell was a Ford model and a Playboy centerfold about whom another former boyfriend, Elvis Costello, wrote the song "Party Girl."

Buell did not want Liv to know that Tyler was her father because he had a druggie history. With Rundgren's compliance, they pretended that he was Liv's father. The hoax lasted until Liv was 10 and met Tyler at one of Rundgren's concerts. She realized because of the striking physical resemblance that he really was her father.

Daily News,

The similarity is Tyler's discovery at age 10 that the man she thought was her father - rocker Todd Rundgren - wasn't.

Buell and Rundgren had broken up before Liv was conceived but later reconciled, and Rundgren raised her as his own daughter. She met Steve Tyler at a rock concert and finally discovered just where she had gotten those large lips and chiseled cheeks.

I'll see if I can find a couple more. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 06:55, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Worldwide recognition?

This heading is very dubious. It is true that she had part in LOTR I--III, which were box-office successes; however, neither here nor later have I seen anything that justifies "worldwide recognition". I note that the part was not all too large, and that the article makes no particular claims about Tyler, herself, that would justify the heading.

I am also somewhat skeptical to the claims of "Critical success" in the previous heading, having always found her acting to be sub-average (too affected or too woody, lacking in depth, no charisma beyond her looks), but will take the references at face value. 188.100.205.226 (talk) 10:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah, well, I'm not guessing you're a critic, and that is what is being discussed there. And for worldwide recognition, doubting that is POV too. Wildhartlivie (talk) 11:16, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Vegan?

Is there a real reference to Liv Tyler as a vegan? All I can find are interview in which she states to eat meat and fish. I think she used to be (when she dated Joaquin Phoenix), but that's over. I'd like to remove her from the "Vegan"- category. Objections? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.50.10.206 (talk) 18:07, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Perhaps if you looked in the article, you'd find it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

If you are referring to refernce no. 78: her name doesn't even appear in that link. Searching the site, all I found was :"Famous people who have said they are vegetarian include:... Liv Tyler,.." That is not a source. Look at that: http://www.lovelylivtyler.com/articles/int197.php Quote: "For lunch I ate a lot of chicken and pasta." There are plenty of interviews with her, in which she states to loose weight by eating chicken and fish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.50.9.79 (talk) 22:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Ancestry

Please add her ancestry on father's side: Italian, German, Polish, Russian and English. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/megan-smolenyak-smolenyak/ive-got-a-crush-on-steven_b_797988.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.179.86.60 (talk) 11:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

She must be Jewish and not German. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.15.17.112 (talk) 18:29, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

New Image

There's a new images of Liv Tyler:

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I think you could replace the picture in infobox with that picture. The old picture was shot in 2008 and this was took in 2012. --37.105.41.206 (talk) 14:26, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

No, thank you. The 2008 picture is superior and shows her at the bloom of her career. It also enjoys the support of the community as the long-standing infobox picture. However, one of those pictures above has been added lower in the text, so thank you for your suggestion. --Mareklug ^talk 06:38, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

In the First picture Her face is not clear, The Second picture is better to put them in Infobox. The difference is clear.

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  First picture
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  Second picture

I see the first picture place is not in the Infobox. It is also best to put a picture close to her face. And not to her body and also the colors and cropping in the second picture Is the best so far. This is the opinion.

Comment. This is a good article, and the picture in the infobox should be newer than that. Please do not change the image, but when we see the opinion of other users. Thanks. --Oz Steps (talk) 16:32, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I suggest you no longer revert my restoring the 2008 picture. There is no consensus for putting the 2012 dark picture in the infobox. Why don't you first convince the editors that you are reverting that the dark picture should be used in place of the good picture from 2008. --Mareklug ^talk 17:17, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

• Comment The quality of Tyler in the blue dress is of obvious better quality and should be the lead image, but maybe it could do some good to crop out more out of the lower half of her body. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 17:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

• The 2008 is technically a better photo, and still representative of the subject. I don't think the newer picture is an improvement moogsi^(blah) 18:03, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

• I've put this image cropping with amazing colors, looks better than show her body.

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  cropping

Regards.--77.31.172.25 (talk) 18:47, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, but her body does not offend me, and your crop is excessive. The 2008 original is more interesting and informative as a photograph. I suggest you get more support for your new proposal. I am against it. --Mareklug ^talk 18:58, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

What's going on here, this picture is old, about 5 years ago, and the face of Liv Tyler look younger in age. If allowed Mareklug, you are the only shareholder that you change the image newest to oldest. The current picture in the infobox is older! We need newer one, you understand that? --Oz Steps (talk) 11:30, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

We use the best picture as the lead picture in the infoboxes. For example, in Audrey Hepburn we use a WP:Featured Picture that is black and white and depicts here at an early stage in her professional career. We are not using a picture of her as an old woman. Ditto for Liv Tyler. Our best picture, in terms of esthetics, light, color, and over all informational value, as well as depicting Liv Tyler AT THE HEIGHT OF HER CAREER is that picture. We have no better picture, and the picture you uploaded in the summer of 2012 and then surreptitiously inserted in all the Wikipedias -- is not the best picture, and in fact, it is a very bad picture. It may be used in the article later on, or perhaps one of the other three is a better choice. They are all too dark and Liv Tyler looks terrible in it, as it is a low-quality photograph. I would also like to point out, that aside from me, other editors have been removing your pictures of Liv Tyler, and no one has been putting them back except for you, whether you are logged in or editing anonymously. Also, I note that the very large fraction of your edits is edit-warring over pictures in infoboxes, where you constantly put a picture and others remove it and you revert. Nearly all your edits are uncommented (no edit summary) reverts of infobox pictures. This has got to stop. You are very likely to be judged to be a disruptive editor, and you are very close to being blocked indefinitely. You have cost me over 13 hours already of cleaning up after you on 49 different wikis. Please relent! Also, please notice that the discussion on this talk page on this issue has 3 editors against you and no one supporting you. I hope that causes you to reconsider you editing. --Mareklug ^talk 14:17, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

The picture.

For goodness's sake, can anyone find a _better_ picture? You know what I'm talking about.

Yes, she's attractive, but this is wikipedia, not reddit.com/r/gw. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.196.153 (talk) 18:54, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Is this picture seriously still being used? Her nipples are poking out of her dress and it looks comical. Spitsonpuppies (talk) 05:17, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Blue dress photo is still in article, but cropped to basically a head shot. David notMD (talk) 20:53, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Using just the surname

In the Early life section, there is a discussion about Liv Tyler's relationship with her biological father, Steven Tyler. There are multiple instances where the sentence says things like "According to Tyler..." and "Tyler said..." and "... in which Tyler starred". Seriously? WHICH TYLER? It is very very ambiguous to refer to a person as "Tyler" in a discussion about two different people who share the same surname. 41.133.77.62 (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Explaining my recent edits

I just don’t think that being a product spokesman counts as part of their personal life, so it had to be moved out of there. Also, converted a web citation from Twitter into tweet citation. Ya have the template, might as well use it--Fradio71 (talk) 10:08, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Covid

Really? Does it matter she got the flu in 2021? Whoever added that needs to stop watching cnn, and google "FUD". Should we add, that she took a dump yesterday also? SMH 67.163.67.112 (talk) 05:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)