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History of Islam

Here the Writer mentioned One of our PROPHET NAME which is wrong It's Dawood but he mentioned David kindly took action and immediately changes should be applied because it hurts Muslim Umah ... 2A00:5400:F000:68B6:1:2:300:2CAB (talk) 06:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copied content about Revisionist school

Hi NGC 628, the content you added here is problematic and needs significant work before it could be appropriate for this article. Aside from some of the prose issues in the first paragraph, the main problems are::

Almost all of it was copied from various sections of Revisionist school of Islamic studies but no attribution was indicated to that article. Please see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia and indicate in your future edit summaries where content was copied from.
This material clearly does not belong in the lead, which is supposed to be a summary of the article (see MOS:LEAD). At best, it belongs in the "Early sources and historiography", and it would need to be significantly condensed, since the main article for this topic is Revisionist school of Islamic studies, already linked there, and it does not need to be repeated at length here.
Some of the statements and their implications are not very clear on their own.
Per WP:NPOV, criticism of this Revisionist school should be mentioned for context, as many of the points described are clearly controversial.
Many of the citations are broken because they were copied from elsewhere without copying the corresponding bibliography, and some of the other copied citations are not very clear to begin with, as they mix multiple sources together with no spacing or formatting. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for general guidelines.
(Note: You also copied the same material to Rashidun Caliphate even though it doesn't say anything precisely relevant to that article or to the section where it was added. That also creates an unnecessary amount of repetition between articles.)

I would recommend you work on this further in your sandbox, summarize the content and improve the citations to better fit this article, and then bring it back here after. Thanks, R Prazeres (talk) 09:18, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Persistent vandalism on several articles

As your editing history demonstrates, you @Selfstarter8: seem to be reverting almost every constructive edit that I made in the last few days, completely out of nowhere and without justification.

Mind you, I have already reported you for your seemingly deliberate and nonsensical disruptive editing on several WP articles. I suggest you to stop and collaborate with other users, and avoid making inappropriate and grossly antisemitic comments in the edit summary, such as this one. GenoV84 (talk) 05:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lead sentence

@Erp, just wanted to make clear that that edit was partially based on my citing MOS:LEADSENTENCE at Talk:History of Christianity. I do think such a lead sentence should probably be reworked, though I'm not sure how. Remsense ‥ 论 01:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right. I just don't think that particular edit was helped. So the previous lead paragraph is "The history of Islam concerns the political, social, economic, military, and cultural developments of the Islamic civilization. Most historians believe that Islam originated with Muhammad's mission in Mecca and Medina at the start of the 7th century CE, although Muslims regard this time as a return to the original faith passed down by the Abrahamic prophets, such as Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, and Jesus, with the submission (Islām) to the will of God." The lead that @HumansRightsIsCool wants is "The history of Islam is believed by most historians to have originated with Muhammad's mission in Mecca and Medina at the start of the 7th century CE, although Muslims regard this time as a return to the original faith passed down by the Abrahamic prophets, such as Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, and Jesus, with the submission (Islām) to the will of God." which most definitely doesn't indicate the breadth of the subject timewise or contentwise. Erp (talk) 02:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i don't want it that way, but it must be that way to follow wiki's guidelines. i added history of Christianity concerns the political, social, economic, military, and cultural developments of the Christian world on the "history of Christianity" article, but sense remsense loves reverting edits on topics regarding religion even if they're small and harmless (don't ask me why, i don't know"), they reverted my edit and told me to see WP:OTHERCONTENT. since my edit isn't allowed on christianity, why should the page about islam have the same exact sentence? it doesn't follow WP:OTHERCONTENT, so i removed it like a reasonable person unless the same sentence is allowed on the christian article. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 03:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And left the opening paragraph not fulfilling its purpose at all. I note a major difference between the sentence you wanted to add in History of Christianity and this article's previous first sentence was the latter has links for "political", "social", etc to relevant article on Islam and that subject and the former did not. However for the time being I'm going to leave it to editors more familiar with this article to decide what to do with the first paragraph. Erp (talk) 04:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]