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Edit request from Mypagesarecool (talk) 01:00, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

{{edit semi-protected}} Please change the Super_PAC_and_2012_Presidential_campaign section to reflect recent updates with his super PAC. Such as the amount of money raised, the results of south carolina poll, and the end. Thanks, I would do it myself but won't let me. Source: http://www.colbertsuperpac.com/marist-south-carolina-poll-results/

Edit request from 72.44.148.196, 19 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Colbert has appeared in several recurring segments for The Daily Show, including "Even Stephven" with Steve Carell,[37]; Please change "Even Stephven" to "Even Stevphen" as listed on The Daily Show website

72.44.148.196 (talk) 21:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Y Done--JayJasper (talk) 21:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Colbert's vandalism of Wikipedia

Really, we should not let him get away with that vandalism. No matterhow funny it may have been, there should have been at least a sentence about it!209.121.127.164 (talk) 21:37, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Spin City

It mentions near the beginning of the article that he made a guest appearance on the show "Spin City", but it's not listed anywhere in his filmography section. Does anyone know what year/episode/character, and if so can they fill it in? 173.171.125.27 (talk) 17:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

The name of the episode is "The Competition" from season one. It originally aired on Nov. 26, 1996. source is imdb.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llama5476 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Charleston Bermuda Boat Race

The article currently states that Colbert finished second in the 2011 race. The race is on-going. The cited source mentioned he was currently in second place, but the race has not yet finished. Stephen Colbert and his charter, the Spirit of Juno are according to the tracking website for the race, are currently in the leading position. But damn wikiality... he'll probably finish in second now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.46.21 (talk) 03:55, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Bad Grammar

"Although, by his own account, he was not particularly political before joining the cast of The Daily Show, Colbert has described himself as a Democrat according to a 2004 interview.[98][99] In an interview at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard Institute of Politics, he stated that he has "no problems with Republicans, just Republican policies".[100]"

These sentences make it sound like all or most democrats have a problem with republicans not republican policies. I would like to have it re-worded for clarity and possibly NPOV. 98.127.120.45 (talk)

Dungeons and Dragons

Stephen Colbert has something of a following in the gaming community and has stated publicly on many occasions he used to play D&D. His affection for Tolkein is also well known. 107.3.67.184 (talk) 13:05, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

True but trivial and unsourced. DP76764 (Talk) 19:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Colbert Played D&D and is a big Lord of the Ring's Fan: http://movies.ign.com/articles/433/433111p1.html I would support including the information 107.3... wants here and say it isn't trivial; it is part of his persona. It comes up all the time on his show. And in the gaming community it is far from trivial. 98.110.177.20 (talk) 20:41, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

If it's 'part of the persona' as you say, then it belong on his character article. I would suggest finding additional sources, as this article (and the other) isn't written for the gaming community, but the entire world. DP76764 (Talk) 01:45, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

To add some clarity here, it isn't part of his fictional persona, he was speaking as the real stephen colbert in the interview posted above, and he this is a very well known and highly publicized part of his life. Absolutely it isn't written for the gaming community, but why leave out such a prominent component of who the man is, and why dismiss his ties to the gaming community as not worth mentioning? In most wiki articles, a celebrity playing dungeons and dragons does get mentioned. So we've sourced it, and we've established it isn't trivial. Any other objections before I include it? 107.3.67.184 (talk) 13:59, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Go for it. I also think its notable. Outback the koala (talk) 04:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Just compiling some possible sources here for us to sort through before crafting an entry. Propose something to the effect of Colbert as Geek Icon as a section (but we can hash this out as we go). Would rather we get any major quibbles out of the way before editing the actual article itself:

http://www.businessinsider.com/stephen-colbert-the-most-trusted-fake-news-man-in-america-2011-5

http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20110530/NEWS/705309970/-1/NEWS Mr Colbert grew up outside of Charleston, South Carolina, the youngest of 11 children. He teaches Sunday School in New Jersey.

He is apparently a fan of fantasy writer JRR Tolkien novels and enjoys playing Dungeons and Dragons, a role-playing game popular among cerebral teenagers.

The parallels between a little hobbit leaving his comfortable shire in search of adventure and Mr Colbert’s trip across the Gulf Stream seem uncanny. But Mr Colbert said he didn’t see himself so much as a Bilbo Baggins or the wizard Gandalf.

“I see myself more as an Arundel,” he joked.

Arundel is the creator of all mankind in ‘Lord of the Rings’. 107.3.67.184 (talk) 13:23, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Here is a lengthy article where he describes his experience playing D&D: http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/dungeons-dragons-online/537989p1.html

Here he is on a list of people who play D&D: http://thetorchonline.com/latest/20-celebrities-who-play-dungeons-dragons/ 107.3.67.184 (talk) 13:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Here he memorializes Gary Gygax, the creator of D&D, on his show: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/156302/march-05-2008/r-i-p--gary-gygax

I'd say these basically establish that he A) plays or played D&D, B)Is a Tolkien fan and C) D&D and Tolkien are significant pieces of his personal history. It somewhat establishes his importance in the gaming community. But I think we need more articles to support that.

And here he is on conan discussing them:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7uvw_colbert-on-obrian_people107.3.67.184 (talk) 13:29, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you for finding more sources. Now, how do you propose incorporating this material into the article? Please try not to give it too much weight in he article; a sentence or two seems appropriate (perhaps in the Early life section). Also, I find the claim that he's important in the gaming community to be dubious at best; he's just a celebrity with a gaming background. Heck, he's never even been a guest at GenCon. DP76764 (Talk) 15:12, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh look, there's already a mention of this in that section. So, what more do we need to add here? DP76764 (Talk) 15:16, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I do think he is an icon in the gaming community. As a long time gamer, who goes to cons, and who posts on forums, there is no doubt of that. The question is whether any reliable sources out there make that claim.

Just because he's never been a guest at gen con doesn't mean he isn't a gaming icon. It just means his celebrity is too big and his rates too high. Generally you get people whose careers have died down, or who are lesser known celebrities attending gen con as guests. 107.3.67.184 (talk) 15:42, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you will need some good sources for that. Your own observations wouldn't be enough for inclusion. I have a gaming background as well and would hardly classify him as an icon. And the man is fairly shameless about plugging himself; I doubt that speaking fees are a factor in whether or not he's been a guest at a con. DP76764 (Talk) 17:03, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

In terms of what we can add, it does look like its mentioned in his early childhood. But we can probably include details like he continues mention gaming on his show and in public. That he mentioned the passing of Gary Gygax on his show is probably significant. Really I think there are a lot of unmined sources on this. The ones I found were from a cursory google search. I imagine there are articles about him in the gaming community as well. 107.3.67.184 (talk) 15:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with this assessment. If it's related to his show, then it belongs on the show's article and not his personal bio. Also, be careful with the 'gaming community' sources; blogs, fan sites and personal pages are generally not considered reliable. DP76764 (Talk) 17:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

At a certain point you have to allow some gaming news sources in. There aren't very many print sources for gaming. I feel like people deflect any niche news sources as irrelevant (and maybe it would be if the subject were the status of glenn beck) but when the subject is the state of things in that niche community itself, these are totally reliable sources if they are established in the community. I also don't see how his status among gamers isn't relevant to his personal bio. I agree the gygax thing probbaly needs to be on the show page. But how he is viewed by a community of people is significant to his biography. 107.3.67.184 (talk) 17:21, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely disagree with you on that point. The way he's viewed by any given community is not necessarily notable or pertinent to this article. If it were, biography articles would be huge collections of 'how is so and so seen by the X community'. Community views need to be significant (to the general population, not a niche) and well sourced. I would argue that the military community's view of him would be much more notable, given his USO work and support of troops via IAVA, etc. Or how about the education community due to his work with Donors Choose? Or the space/science community due to his 'work' with NASA?

In terms of sourcing, relevance in a community can *rarely* qualify a source as reliable (civfanatics for the Civilization series comes to mind). It's a case by case situation though. I recommend you take a thorough read through WP:RS and WP:5P (and possibly WP:NOT). They don't have to be printed sources, just reliable. However, I think you will find that there are already plenty of sources from gaming circles that are considered reliable, so it should just be a matter of finding material from them. DP76764 (Talk) 18:01, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Community views only need to be significant to the community. If there is a public figure who is embraced by a minority group for example, that is notworthy and included in articles. By the same token if there is a figure who is ill-regarded, say by trangendered people, then that is also noteworthy and included. I agree that the military's view is notable and should be included as well. That doesn't mean that embrace of him by the gaming community should be dismissed. 107.3.67.184 (talk) 18:11, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I believe you are incorrect about what determines a notable/significant view. People who are embraced by groups have that mentioned IF that information is covered widely by reliable sources, not because of the mere existence of the embrace itself. Please see WP:N. (also, please try to indent your replies so future readers can follow the conversation more easily). DP76764 (Talk) 18:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I believe you are missapplying notability here. If we wanted an article on STEVEN COLBERT AS GAMER ICON, then sure. But we aren't debating whether an article should be included. Only whether a feature of that article should be included. Just because it doesn't get mentioned in the NY times, doesn't mean it isn't relevant. He has stated many times he is a gamer. We'd expect some information on how gamers themselves react to this information. 107.3.67.184 (talk) 20:24, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Here: Notability guidelines do not limit content within an article

Shortcuts: "The criteria applied to article content are not the same as those applied to article creation. The notability guidelines do not apply to article or list content (with the exception that some lists restrict inclusion to notable items or people). Content coverage within a given article or list is governed by the principle of due weight and other content policies. For additional information about list articles, see Notability and lists and Lead and selection criteria."107.3.67.184 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC).

Stephen has said that he turned to fantasy writing and Tolkien and D&D after the death of his father and two brothers. He doesn't specifically mention it here:http://www.avclub.com/articles/stephen-colbert,13970/ but he does talk about role playing and Tolkien. He goes into more depth about how the deaths in his family led to his interest in Tolkien, fantasy and role playing on the Charlie Rose show-link:http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/93 Llama5476 (talk) 20:18, 3 September 2011 (UTC)llama

Edit request from Bradleythefox, 24 June 2011

I would like you to add an entry to Stephen Colbert's awards and honors. In 2009 NASA honored Colbert by naming the treadmill that is now onboard the international space station after the comedy central host by using the acronym COLBERT to describe the treadmill. 3 years ago while Nasa was holding a an online vote to name the newest part of the I.S.S Colbert actually convinced hundreds of thousands of fans of his show to flood the NASA website with votes to name an entire space station module after him. Needless to say, He won by a landslide! victory however this victory was bittersweet and I believe the module ended up being named tranquility instead. While NASA refused to brandish Colberts name on the Lab Module they did however acknowlage Stephens victory in another way that was none the less as amazing still!, He being the rightful winner of the contest, he was instead bestowed as the having an acromym of his last Name immortalized to denote as well as describe this treadmill used for exercise by the astro/cosmonauts on board the I.S.S. Although it was the best they could do for Colbert but he was still the first ever comedian/news Anchor ever to have his name immortalized as part of a NASA spacecraft of anything NASA for that matter. So it seems that with the shuttle program coming to end this month, in my opinion this is one of the greatest honors any human being could ever receive! I belive this Honor bestowed upon him by NASA is beyond worthy of being mentioned on his wikipedia entry. Just think about it...their is literally a piece of exercise equipment with this Mans name on it and used to describe it orbiting around our planet right now at 17,500 miles per hour and it was flown there, into space by the greatest machine the world has ever known, A NASA space shuttle! That my friend is not simply just an honor or achievement from NASA but a testament to this one Mans ability to influence our Space Agency, the Nation and even to have the following to gain the support of people from all over the world who cast their votes so this one mans dream of having his name immortalized on board of the crown jewel of our scientific prowess, the International Space station was realized. To many of you it might just be a treadmill that's called COLBERT but to myself and I'm sure to many others it's proof that if we work hard and put our minds to achieving great things in life we to could someday have a treadmill with our name on flying around a planet it in outer fricken Space. I still can't understand why this amazingly rare opportunity and honor Stephen Colbert received from NASA has been left out from This wiki? in my opinion this acheavment is not just an inspiration, but proof that we can all shoot for the stars and achieve the greatest of great things in our lives that most would never even think possible! If a sentence or two about the "Stephen Colbert I.S.S Astro/Cosmonaut Space Treadmill" is not seen as an accomplishment thats worth mentioning on this great mans Wikipedia entry then I don't know what all of you consider as the definition of a great honor and award to be? but please do let me know?!? A Citation can be veiwed @ www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/behindscenes/colberttreadmill.html.

Thank you Bradley Fox

Bradleythefox (talk) 12:05, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

As you should now be auto-confirmed you should be able to edit the article yourself. Jnorton7558 (talk) 07:39, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation of "Colbert Report"

Some mention should be made that the title of the show is jokingly pronounced (by Colbert at least) with a silent T at the end of both "Colbert" and "Report".184.162.187.192 (talk) 00:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, withdrawn, already mentioned in the main Colbert Report article!184.162.187.192 (talk) 00:33, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Remove future tense from "Awards and Honors" section

This sentence should be rephrased into past tense: "Colbert will be the 2011 commencement speaker for Northwestern University, and receive an honorary degree." It's currently the last sentence in that section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.187.50 (talk) 01:30, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I updated it and fixed the reference, too. - Xcal68 (talk) 19:19, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Missing sections/info??

There appears to be no mention of Stephen being knighted by Sir Paul McCartney or his own Ben and Jerrys flavor "Americone Dream" or the water-fight between him and Sir Richard Branson or from the Daily-Show The "Even Stevphens" or "This week in God". His SuperPAC only gets a casual mention and there is no listing of his characterizations (such as the very funny Esteban Colberto or Ching-chong-ding-dong or...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.128.14.38 (talk) 14:37, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused why Stephen's honorary titles are only associated with his "fictional" character. As far as I know, his honorary doctorate and knighthood are legal, and as such he should be referred to here as well as Sir Dr. Stephen Colbert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.14.153 (talk) 06:05, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Awards?

In an audience Q&A for the show on Tuesday 10th November 2011, Stephen Colbert said Marvel sent him a replica shield in 2007, saying it was left to him by Captain America in his will, as the only patriot worthy of it, and that this prompted his wife to burst into tears. He confessed he was somewhat bemused by her reaction to a fictional character leaving a prop shield to a fictionalized version of himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.242.207 (talk) 05:30, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Colbert's Children

The article references citation 106 (http://www.parents.com/family-life/celebrity-parents/moms-dads/celebrity-parents-stephen-colbert/) for the claim that all of his children have appeared on The Daily Show, but I don't see that mentioned anywhere in the magazine article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.161.133.108 (talk) 03:14, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I have removed the aforementioned assertion which, as you pointed out, was not supported by the citation.--JayJasper (talk) 05:40, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

A Colbertan

A Colbertan is a common term (not really) for a person who receives their news only from Stephan Colbert. This person, believe it or not, is able to quote word for word the entire episode. The will, many times, use the following terms: Bug-a-boo, truthiness, and wikiality. It is extremely likely that a Colbertan has donated to the SuperPac that was started by their 'leader.' The main purpose was to see their name on the lovely scroll that could be found on the bottom of the screen during the report's episode.

A colbertan many times will repeat funny jokes heard on the show, neglecting to mention the fact that it wasn't their joke. They will sometimes use the Word of the Day, even if it is inappropriate. What very few people know about Colbertans is that they are obsessed with the movie Barney's Great Adventure.

Signs of a Colbertan: -Anyone wearing a suit. -People who like to speak in the 'demon' voice. -Crazies who download the Moron Test App. -The person who chuckles when they hear the name Santorum. -Adults who write in Stephan Colbert on every single election Ballot. -Anyone who is reading this! -Sane people who are against wearing males Spanx® (unlike those who follow Jon Stewart).

If you need specific examples of these sort of people, just search Stephan Colbert on the Urban Dictionary.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by XYZ1009998 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Expansion needed

This article, as well as those for the character and the show, needs major updating in light of this long and fascinating new source. --Nstrauss (talk) 19:49, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 February 2012

Medicalcdl (talk) 14:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Please hyperlink the first mention of Dr. James W. Colbert, Jr. (under Early life, third paragraph that begins with "His father, James William Colbert, Jr., was the vice president for academic affairs at the Medical University of South Carolina.") to an online exhibit about Dr. Colbert, With Integrity and Dignity: The Life of James W. Colbert, Jr., M.D. The exhibit, produced by the Waring Historical Library (http://health.library.musc.edu/waring/index.php) at the Medical University of South Carolina, concerns the life of Dr. Colbert and his tenure at the Medical University.

The link I would like added: http://health.library.musc.edu/waring/exhibits/colbert/

Thanks! Medicalcdl (talk) 14:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't link externally in the main body of the article, those links go in the "External links" section at the bottom of the page. However, that link doesn't belong in this article at all, as it's about the subject's dad, not the subject. — Bility (talk) 16:44, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request for the Colbert SuperPAC

According to the Colbert SuperPAC website, Jon Stewart has signed over control of "Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tommorow" back to Stephen Colbert. I am requesting that the section to be reedited to include this recent development. Here is the source: http://www.colbertsup

Dead link replacement

Reference number 51, which is marked as a dead link, can be replaced with the following, as the article was relocated to a new URL. http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/television/2006/05/dinner_theater.html I would do it, but the article is protected and won't let me edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.255.227.190 (talk) 00:29, 24 February 2012 (UTC) erpac.com/

Y Done - thanks for providing the working link.--JayJasper (talk) 04:45, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

What degree does he hold?

One might infer he has a Bachelor's degree in Theatre from Northwestern, but would have to carefully examine two sections to piece this together. Can this be clarified? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.218.216 (talk) 04:40, 28 February 2012 (UTC)