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A fact from Sulayman of Mali appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 April 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that unlike his famously generous brother Mansa Musa, Mansa Sulayman of Mali was considered a miser?

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Requested move 3 March 2022[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 19:11, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Suleyman (mansa) → Sulayman of Mali – As per the recently-conducted move of Khalifa (mansa) to Khalifa of Mali, WP:NCROY and WP:TITLEDAB indicate that the title Sulayman of Mali is more in line with Wikipedia title naming conventions. However, for consistency with Mansa Musa, for whom WP:COMMONNAME applies, Mansa Sulayman is also an option. In any case, a natural disambiguation would be preferable to a parenthetical one, and I think the spelling "Sulayman" should be favored over "Suleyman", as it appears to be the more common spelling of the name. Scholarly sources, such as UNESCO's General History of Africa, Levtzion and Hopkins' Corpus of Early Arabic Sources for West African History, and Gomez's African Dominion, seem to primarily use the transliteration "Sulaymān". "Mansa Sulayman" turns up 117 results on Google Scholar, whereas "Mansa Suleyman" turns up 69 results, some of which seem to be based on Wikipedia. Ornithopsis (talk) 18:16, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 21:03, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that unlike his famously generous brother Mansa Musa, Mansa Sulayman of Mali was considered a miser? Source: "The same traveller [Ibn Battuta] met Sulayman and noted that the people hated him because of his parsimony in contrast to the generosity of his brother Mansa Musa" (Levtzion 1973: Ancient Ghana and Mali, p. 67); referring to Ibn Battuta's statements "He is a miserly king from whom no great donation is to be expected" and "The Sudan disliked Mansa Sulayman on account of his avarice...Mansa Musa was virtuous and generous." (translated in Levtzion and Hopkins 2000: Corpus of early Arabic Sources for West African history; pp. 289, 295)
- Comment: My first nomination

5x expanded by Ornithopsis (talk). Self-nominated at 00:07, 8 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Excellent work! The article and hook are interesting, impeccably sourced. Nomination is new enough and no QPQ necessary due to first-time nom. Al Ameer (talk) 06:49, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]