Template:Did you know nominations/Bloomsburg and Sullivan Railroad

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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:07, 16 March 2013 (UTC).

Bloomsburg and Sullivan Railroad[edit]

  • ... that one of the contributing factors to the decline of the Bloomsburg and Sullivan Railroad was the advent of trucks in the mid-20th century? (Non-lead hook.)
  • Comment: Seems interesting enough.

Moved to mainspace by King jakob c 2 (talk). Self nominated at 17:55, 23 February 2013 (UTC).

  • I'm not sure I agree with that comment, whether it's a comment about the hook or about the article. As far as the hook is concerned, I would have thought that many, if not most, railway companies worldwide were adversely affected by the advent of trucks in the mid-20th century. Meanwhile, the impression I get, from reading the article, is that the Railroad was a fairly unremarkable now-"fallen flag" short line. However, that doesn't mean it's unworthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or in DYK. Can I suggest a couple of alternative hook topics? The lead says that the Railroad was one of five railroads serving Bloomsburg, which seems to be a pretty small town. Alternatively, the fact that the final nail in the coffin of the Railroad was Hurricane Agnes in 1972 may be a potential hook. Bahnfrend (talk) 14:31, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
  • That could work. I agree it's a much better idea than my original one.King Jakob C2 14:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
  • New hooks should actually be proposed here, so we can get a reviewer to check them out. While suggested topics are nice, they can't be reviewed: we need actual hook text for ALT1, ALT2, or however many alternate hooks you create. Please do so soon; this has been sitting for over two weeks. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:38, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure how much was checked in previous review, so I'll start from scratch:
  • Article - moved to main space on day of nomination 23 February, so new enough; 6925 characters of readable prose, so long enough; neutral; at least one inline citation to every paragraph; no copy vios detected using earwig and duplication detector; and assessed as C class.
  • Hook ALT 1: - within length criteria at 121 characters; correctly formatted; correctly cited/supported by ref #3 in lead (AGF offline source); and reasonably interesting.
  • QPQ - looks as if nominator only has one previous DYK, so not necessary (although I'm sure one would be appreciated); no image.
Ref #3 needs to be correctly formatted and page numbers used, particularly as it is the ref for the ALT 1 hook; ref #13 for google maps needs to be corrected; are some of the refs self published? I also don't think the 'Paper on the Bloomsburg and Sullivan Railroad' needs to be an external link as it is used as a ref. SagaciousPhil - Chat 13:31, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 Fixed. If this is the self-published source you're talking about, it appears to at least cite reliable sources.King Jakob C2 13:53, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Ref is now in DYK acceptable format - personally I prefer exact page citation format, but that's just me! SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:01, 16 March 2013 (UTC)