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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:33, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Marius van Altena[edit]

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  • Reviewed: Skerray
  • Comment: I will work to get the conductor ready for DYK as well, but the tenor can't wait longer.

Created/expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:35, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

  • I have reviewed the Marius van Altena article only; the other one is still to be done. It's a new article, nominated 'on time', long enough and well referenced. The hook fact goes across several sentences and I assume that the reference to an offline source (which I AGF) at the end of the last sentence covers the whole lot. My understanding is that for DYK purposes, the ref should be at the end of each sentence, so that it's clear that all the facts are covered. If your understanding differs, please let me know. As an aside, you might want to check the Spectaculum link – does that point to the article you wanted to link to? Schwede66 23:42, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
  • One of the authors: the last question goes to the other. Thanks for the review, perhaps wait a few more days for the conductor (nominated later) which will be improved but not today. The hook fact was on the German Wikipedia's similar section "Schon gewusst?", on the conductor. I will try to consult a Dutch speaker also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
  • By now I expanded the conductor and think he should go first. The source for the hook is in his obituary (in Dutch), named "tom", on page 17 (16 in toc):
ALT1: ... that Johan van der Meer conducted the first historically informed performance in the Netherlands of Bach's St Matthew Passion in 1973, with Marius van Altena as the Evangelist and Max van Egmond as the Vox Christi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Long enough and new enough (at least they were new when nominated). AGF on sourcing -- from what I've seen of the sources, I believe the hook fact is solid. I much prefer the ALT1 wording, and I would omit the "1973" date as a bit of distracting detail. --Orlady (talk) 22:57, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Thank you, but I would keep the 1973 for those who know a bit, because it's early for historically informed practice, compare notable recordings: the first 1970, this 1973, next 1985, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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